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James Benson

Thank you, Rick, and good morning, everyone. Q4 was a strong finish to fiscal '25. Once again, we exceeded the high end of guidance across all top line growth and profitability metrics. Our ability to execute successfully in this dynamic environment is a testament to the growing criticality of observability and security in the market, our highly differentiated AI-powered platform, our ability to demonstrate exceptional business value and ROI for our customers, and the predictability and durability of our business model. Fiscal '25 was a pivotal year in evolving our go-to-market model and driving broader usage of the platform across our customer base.
Leveraging our flexible, scalable and frictionless DPS licensing model, we have made it easy for a growing number of customers to gain full access to the platform and adopt Dynatrace more extensively within their IT environments, including capturing more usage of our emerging and adjacent solutions. This journey continues in fiscal '26.
Let's review the results in more detail. Growth rates mentioned will be year over year and in constant currency, unless otherwise stated. Annual recurring revenue, or ARR, ended the year at $1.73 billion, representing 17% growth, slightly above the high end of guidance driven by steady expansion bookings, including a number of seven-figure ACV vendor consolidation deals.
We added 171 new logos in Q4, up slightly from a year ago, as we remain focused on landing enterprise accounts with a higher propensity to expand. The average new logo land size remains healthy at $130,000 on a trailing 12-month basis, highlighting the market trend away from ineffective point solutions and towards software providers like Dynatrace with platform breadth and depth.
Once customers experience the benefits of the Dynatrace platform, they have been quick to expand their usage. Our average ARR per customer continues to grow and is now well over $400,000, highlighting the incremental adoption of the platform and inherent business value we provide to customers. Given the significant cross-sell and upsell opportunities in our enterprise customer base, we believe the average ARR per customer opportunity could be $1 million or more over the long term.
Our gross retention rate in Q4 remained in the mid-90s, demonstrating the strategic relevance for the Dynatrace platform as a mission-critical component of our customers' operations. Net retention rate or NRR was 110% in the fourth quarter. Customer penetration of our DPS licensing model is gaining traction. As Rick noted, we exited Q4 with over 40% of our customer base on DPS, more than doubling the number of DPS customers during fiscal '25. Further, DPS customers now contribute over 60% of our ARR, representing more than $1 billion.
Our expectation when we launched DPS was that customers with full access to the platform would leverage more capabilities and extend Dynatrace more broadly into their IT environment, and we have seen this thesis play out. For example, DPS customers consume, on average, 12 capabilities compared to five capabilities for SKU-based customers.
In terms of usage volumes on the platform, customer consumption growth rates are 2x the rate of SKU-based customers and leading to much higher expansion rates. As a result, the average ARR per DPS customer is over $600,000, well above the company average. While consumption growth takes time to translate into subscription revenue or ARR growth, these robust DPS penetration and platform consumption trends are positive indicators for future top line growth.
As we shared last quarter, as DPS has matured and scaled it's customer-friendly approach to pricing, which was -- which does not penalize customers for exceeding commitments, is leading some customers to consume on-demand instead of renewing or expanding early.
In Q4, on-demand consumption revenue or ODC, was $9 million, up from $7 million in Q3 and bringing trailing 12-month ODC revenue to $21 million. ODC is another lever for subscription revenue growth in addition to new logo and expansion bookings. However, this revenue is not captured in our NRR or ARR metrics, which only include contractually committed revenue. Moving on to revenue.
Total revenue for Q4 was $445 million, growing 19% and exceeding the high end of our guidance range by 200 basis points. Subscription revenue for Q4 was $424 million, up 20% and similarly exceeding our guidance aided by strength in ODC revenue. Turning to profitability. Q4 non-GAAP operating margin was 26%, exceeding the top end of guidance by over 100 basis points, driven by revenue upside flowing to the bottom line. Non-GAAP net income was $99 million or $0.33 per diluted share, $0.02 above the high end of guidance.
Turning to a quick summary of the full year results. Total revenue was $1.7 million, and subscription revenue was $1.62 billion, both growing 20%. Full year non-GAAP operating margin was 29%, 25 basis points above the high end of guidance and 120 basis points above fiscal '24, demonstrating our ability to drive leverage in the business model while still investing for growth. Non-GAAP net income for the year was $422 million or $1.39 per diluted share. Our non-GAAP earnings factor in an effective cash tax rate of 22%.
Full year free cash flow was $431 million or 25% of revenue, 50 basis points above the high end of guidance and 100 basis points above fiscal '24. As a reminder, this strong cash flow margin result includes absorbing nearly 700 basis points of impact due to cash taxes. Adjusting for cash taxes, pretax free cash flow for fiscal '25 was 32% of revenue, an improvement of nearly 250 basis points compared to fiscal '24. Turning to the balance sheet. As of March 31, we had nearly $1.2 billion of cash and investments and 0 debt.
In Q4, we repurchased 787,000 shares for $43 million as part of our opportunistic share repurchase program. Since the inception of the program, in May 2024 through March 31, 2025, we have repurchased 3.4 million shares for $173 million with approximately $327 million remaining of the $500 million authorization. Let's turn to guidance. As always, we continue to manage the business in a measured manner, and our prudent approach to guidance remains unchanged. We are mindful of the fluid nature of the geopolitical and macro landscape.
While we have not seen any notable impacts in demand or close rates to date, we expect enterprises to remain careful in their spending, and our approach to guidance assumes an incremental level of caution in terms of budget scrutiny and sales cycle lag throughout fiscal '26.
With that as context, let's start with our guidance for the full year. We expect ARR to be between $1.975 billion and $1.99 billion representing ARR growth of 13% to 14%. While we don't guide to ARR on a quarterly basis, we expect quarterly seasonality of net new ARR to be similar to the last three years. Turning to revenue.
We expect total revenue to be between $1.95 billion to $1.965 billion, up 14% to 15%. Underlying that, subscription revenue is expected to be between $1.65 billion and $1.88 billion, also up 14% to 15%. Within subscription revenue, we are assuming an ODC revenue contribution of $30 million. Since ODC is uncommitted, dependent on many factors and our history is somewhat limited, we are being appropriately conservative with our initial ODC assumption for the year. Our fiscal '26 guidance is based on foreign exchange spot rates as of May 12, 2025, representing an FX tailwind to ARR and revenue of $20 million and $17 million, respectively.
We expect non-GAAP operating income to be between $560 million and $570 million, resulting in a non-GAAP operating margin of 29% for the year. We will continue prioritizing investments in R&D, sales capacity, customer success and our partnership programs while driving further scale and efficiency in other areas. We expect non-GAAP net income to be $481 million to $494 million, resulting in a non-GAAP EPS of $1.56 to $1.59 per diluted share based on 309 million to 310 million shares outstanding.
We estimate our fiscal '26 effective cash tax rate to be 19%, down from 22% in fiscal '25 due primarily to the benefit of the IP transfer I mentioned last quarter. We expect free cash flow to be between $505 million and $515 million or 26% of revenue, a 100 basis point improvement from fiscal '25 levels.
As a full cash taxpayer, we believe the best way to benchmark our cash flow generation is on a pretax basis. as most software peers pay minimal cash taxes. Adjusting for cash taxes, pretax free cash flow margin is expected to be 32% in fiscal '26.
As a helpful reminder for your modeling, due to seasonality and variability in billings, we expect free cash flow to be significantly higher in the first and fourth quarters and significantly lower in the second and third quarters. Looking to Q1, we expect total revenue to be between $465 million and $470 million, and subscription revenue is expected to be between $445 million and $450 million, both growing 16% to 17%.
Non-GAAP operating income is expected to be between $130 million and $135 million or 28% to 28.5% of revenue. Lastly, non-GAAP EPS is expected to be $0.37 to $0.38 per diluted share based on a share count of 304 million to 305 million shares.
In closing, the strength of our Q4 and fiscal '25 performance sets a solid foundation for fiscal '26. The secular growth driver is fueling the observability market are unchanged and our AI-powered end-to-end platform differentiates us and puts us in a strong competitive position. The fundamentals of the business are increasingly being driven by consumption, and we are investing to fuel that growth.
We have a strong track record of consistent execution. We are committed to maintaining a disciplined approach to optimizing costs and improving efficiency. At the same time, we will continue to invest in future growth opportunities that we expect will drive long-term value. With that, we will open the line for questions. Operator?

Question and Answer Session

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Patrick Colville, Scotiabank.

Patrick Colville

I'm going to ask this one to both Rick and Jim. In our field work, logs is performing very well, was interesting to hear in your prepared remarks, similar commentary. If I rewind back to this time last year, the logs target for $100 million of ARR was pushed out slightly. So I guess, could you kind of wrap around some quantitative context to that qualitative logs commentary? And any update if possible on where we are versus that target and what we should expect in fiscal '26 in logs?

James Benson

Good question, Patrick. We're very pleased with logs. We have over 1/3 of our customers now leveraging our log solutions. So it continues to grow. As you can imagine, it varies for customers that are using it pretty significantly and customers that are just starting with it.
It's the fastest-growing product category in the company, it has been. And for the $100 million goal, just to remind you that, that's kind of a -- because it's a consumption-oriented goal, not an ARR goal because with DPS contracts, we don't exactly know what the customers consuming until they consume it.
So the $100 million ambition, we have high confidence we will exceed that in fiscal '26. And it is a business just to give you just some rough numbers, that business will grow well over 100% in fiscal '26.

Rick McConnell

I would just add, Patrick, that we had a pretty substantial upgrade wave in the logs capability back in the October time frame. And that's when we really saw logs begin to accelerate. So we're excited about what we've seen. We like the metrics of more than $100 million in consumption this year, as Jim said. And at that growth rate of north of 100%, we were quite optimistic about the business to come this year.

Operator

Matt Hedberg, RBC.

Matt Hedberg

Rick, I wanted to drill into the go-to-market. It looks like you had a lot of success this past year with GSIs and hyperscalers in particular. So that's great to see. I guess, first of all, how would you talk about sales productivity? You guys obviously made a lot of changes last year, including new six-month quotas and you also realigned some territories.
I guess, how did that fare versus your expectations? And are there any other significant changes you're planning on making this year to kind of the go-to-market?

Rick McConnell

Yes. Let me take the first part, and I'll let Jim comment on sales productivity. On the first part, GSIs and hyperscalers are a fundamental part of our strategy. We have now grown our overall partners, as we said in the prepared remarks, to well more than 70% of our overall deployment in ACV.
And it gives us substantially greater reach to get to customers for deployments, implementations, management, so it gives us a bigger footprint to then attack those customer opportunities we look forward. GSI's are obviously very much aligned to our target customer base. So that's helpful. And as we shift our attention to cloud-native workloads as well as AI native workloads, those are all going to be present in the cloud, in which case, hyperscalers become incrementally more critical for us (inaudible) those contracts.
So we're fully leaned into partners. It remains a core element of the overall sales motion. Jim, do you want to comment on productivity?

James Benson

Yes. What I would say about the go-to-market update, is, I think, I would say we remain pleased with the progress. As a reminder, you mentioned a few of the changes, but the three big ones were we refocused to kind of wrapped more to higher propensity to spend customers. That's progressing well. Those accounts have doubled the pipeline and the pipeline in total.
So very good traction there. Obviously, pipeline is a precursor to a booking. Rick mentioned channels. We now have over 3/4 of our business that is leveraging a channel. We still want to continue to get some progress on (inaudible) originated, but good progress on channels.
And then the sales play, the sales plays being the -- your traditional APM sales play, kind of a cloud-native workload sales play and end-to-end tool consolidation, again, doing very well -- doing very well particularly with tool consolidation.
So we feel very good about it. I'd say maybe the one enhancement, Matt, that we're making for fiscal '26, everything else that I said remains unchanged, we are adding what we're calling strike teams. So these are teams of people that, one, are working, they're not specialist teams but they are strike teams that have a particular focus area. And the focus areas for our strike teams are, one, logs; two, application security and; three DEM, digital experience monitoring.
So those three areas, we're going to have strike teams, and they're focused on driving adoption, driving consumption. You heard a lot in the opening remarks about the company underpinning is becoming more consumption and adoption oriented. Having these strike teams are going to help us fuel that growth on the go-to-market side. So we feel very good about that.

Operator

Brent Thill, Jefferies.

Brent Thill

Just on the strategic account growth, I think you mentioned over 45% pipeline growth just remind us, when have you seen that level of strength? And maybe to Matt's question on the close, the pipeline seems like it's growing at a much higher rate. When do the close rate start to come up to kind of match that pipeline growth you're seeing?

James Benson

Yes, it's a good question. I mean, I'd say you have the tailwinds and I'll say headwinds. On the tailwind side, I think that the demand environment continues to be pretty resilient. And so therefore, you're seeing that kind of in a broader pipeline. And the good news is these larger accounts, we're seeing a growing percentage of that pipeline.
Having said that, I'd say what's changed in the last maybe three months, and I'd say the macro environment is a bit more uncertain, I still think deals are going to get done. I think what we've tried to imply in this is that deals might take a little bit longer, especially when you're talking to large strategic accounts, especially for those that are considering some level of tool consolidation, those deals and those accounts take a little bit longer.
And so I think that for us, the fuel is pipeline. And to remind you that again, about this notion of driving more consumption that with our business becoming more heavily weighted towards Dynatrace platform subscriptions, 60% of our ARR now and growing. The notion of driving adoption and consumption becomes much, much more important because that, by its definition, is a consumption-oriented model. It has the benefit of a ratable revenue recognition subscription model, but it's underpinnings are consumption. And so there's a bit of a reorientation within the company.
As I mentioned, strike teams, it's also our customer success teams around making investments to drive more consumption. Now there's a lag between consumption. And when you see it either show up in ARR or in subscription revenue through ODCs, but it is kind of a core underpinning of future growth for the company. And the good news is consumption is growing at a very rapid clip.

Operator

Rob Owens, Piper Sandler.

Rob Owens

Great. I'd love to pivot a little bit to the security opportunity. And what you think needs to happen to unlock it more broadly? Is this a function of product depth or more so go-to-market at this point?

Rick McConnell

I think it's a combination, Rob. We see good traction with our RVA solution for vulnerability analytics. We need to continue to extend our offerings in this area, expectations toward movement to CADR and cloud SIM type opportunities, I think, represents the next foundation of growth for us. So that's where we're looking. And of course, we've got Kubernetes and cloud security posture management, which is now available which we expect to grow as well.
So short form is a combination of expanded product offerings with which we are working in delivering the market as well as expanded go-to-market. Jim mentioned strike teams earlier. We have an AppSec strike team that is exclusively focused on the go-to-market part of this area as well.

Operator

Raimo Lenschow, Barclays.

Raimo Lenschow

Jim, you have the not so easy task to think about on the (inaudible) revenue for next year. Can you talk a little bit about how you went about it? Because obviously, as you said, you don't have a lot of historic data. Like how should we think about how you kind of frame that?

James Benson

It's a good question, Raimo. Obviously, if we kind of inserted in Q3 this notion of on-demand consumption becoming kind of a growing part of the growth story of the company, which is, again, underpinning this consumption point that I made earlier.
So we're a year into it, as you can imagine, with customers that have gone through at least the first cohort of customers that have gone through their annual reset periods. And so we've looked at how they behaved. We've looked at what are the -- think of it as the attach rate, how much of your business is going through an annual reset period by quarter.
How much is that growing? What is the kind of -- for lack of better word, ODC attach rate to what you've seen historically. So what we've done is we've tried to apply some analytics on that. And as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, because it's uncommitted and it -- you have to account for a bunch of factors, including do cohort classes for your first year cohorts behave the same way in year two.
So the new cohort classes behave the same way as the first year cohort classes. And so we did apply a level of kind of conservatism to that. We'll update you along the way. But that's kind of the general way that we framed it. We looked at it from a -- think of it as an attach rate perspective, but we built some caution knowing that cohort classes are going to behave a little bit differently.

Operator

Kash Rangan, Goldman Sachs.

Kast Rangan

Congrats on finishing up the fiscal year very solidly. As you look at the on-demand revenue, how do you trade off the upside where you want to do better? And maybe talk about the sales incentives that are going into the consumption aspect of the business versus, also at the same level, raising the bar for what is predictable and increasingly trying to get the upside into the customer contracts, so you lock them up and you get even more visibly. So trading off the upside versus the predictability at a higher level is what I wanted to get your thoughts on.

James Benson

Yes. Kash, that's a good question. As you can imagine, there's a bunch of variables within there. One of the things that we haven't done that we are doing this year, Kash, is that our customer success teams and the strike teams that we mentioned, they are exclusively measured on consumption and adoption.
And so it's a bit of a change where we now have dedicated teams of people that before we're working with customers on helping them in the adoption of our products and solutions, we now have a new team with these strike teams in addition to our core customer success teams.
And so these from an incentive perspective, both of these teams, their measurement is on consumption. So again, my point about driving more adoption, driving more consumption. And as I said in my prepared remarks, we're already making tremendous traction, get customers on DPS as a contracting vehicle. And we have found they consume more -- they consume more of the platform, so they consume more of our solutions. They consume more deeply.
And so what we needed to do and the changes we made this year is to better fortify teams that are focused on driving consumption and adoption. And so that's the big focus, as you mentioned, that, that will show up in two ways. Ultimately, it will show up with maybe continued high growth in consumption and customers burn through their commitments earlier and either go to an on-demand consumption or in some cases, customers will renew early.
There's a bit of timing delay for these, but again, kind of a core underpinning that we were trying to convey on this call is that consumption is becoming a growing kind of part of the narrative that we've historically been a kind of bookings, ARR oriented company. That's still important.
But this consumption notion is becoming more important for the company. And I'd say we're going through a bit of a transition and '26 will be that kind of the next phase of the transition that started in fiscal '26.

Rick McConnell

Yes, I would add to that, just to highlight, we are still a subscription business. But that said, we believe that especially in a DPS world, it really is about driving consumption. So to Jim's point, whether it is compensating on consumption for strike teams, our D1 services teams, our customer success teams, we see dramatically higher consumption in the DPS deployment. We believe that, that is a precursor to future revenue and subscription growth opportunity. And so that's where we're focused as a company.

Operator

Andrew Nowinski, Wells Fargo.

Andrew Nowinski

And a nice quarter results. I wanted to ask maybe on the net retention rates. So I know the ODC component seems to distort that real net retention rate given that it's not included in ARR. But I'm wondering given that it is a growing piece of your business, what would NRR look like if -- or would it have increased if you would use subscription revenue instead of ARR as part of the NRR calculation? And then how are you thinking about the trajectory of the net retention rate in fiscal '26?

James Benson

Yes, it's a good question. As you can imagine, the dynamics of NRR, as you said, there's a correlation between what is committed, which is an NRR and what is uncommitted, which is not an NNR. So NRR ticked modestly down. We're talking decimals from 111 to 110 from Q3 to Q4. But again, decimals that if you added in ODCs, which I kind of think about them as deferred ARR or deferred NRR actually, you would have seen a modest uptick in NRR in Q4 from Q3.

Operator

Sanjit Singh, Morgan Stanley.

Sanjit Singh

A bit higher level question. Kind of on your AI theme, Rick, in your script, we're hearing more about autonomous or maybe nearly autonomous SRE agents. Two questions there. One, any sort of trend line that you're seeing about customers wanting to move to this sort of operational cadence, having agents execute a lot of the observability workflows?
And if that is the case, what do you think the impact is on overall observability demand and sort of how products are built if agents are going to be executing the workflows and an observability platform versus human SRE engineers?

Rick McConnell

That was a great question, Sanjit. And after about an hour, I will have answered it. The short form is we see the trend line absolutely moving and moving aggressively toward agentic AI broadly and specifically in observability. And the result of it is that what customers really want is they want the conclusion or fluctuation of our mission, which is to deliver answers and intelligent automation from data. What they've been getting in observability is the data part or the answers part but not the automation part.
So the way that we see this evolving is that through agentic observability or an agentic observability platform with Dynatrace they actually can now take action based on those answers. Well, that begins to get your second question on how does this occur?
What we believe is that you need multiple different layers of capabilities to deliver a true agentic observability platform. You first need a completely integrated data link house in -- which we have in Grail which has all data types, log traces metrics, et cetera, in context in one unified data lake house. Secondly, you need a completely integrated Davis AI engine which we have that does causal predictive AI as well as generative AI to be able to deliver those answers that are trustworthy.
Once you can trust the answer is then you need an automation engine which we have to then be able to execute those instructions within the observability environment. And finally, an area that we're beginning to work more (inaudible) on is to then extend that agentic set of protocols to third-party agents to be able to effectuate change in code, for example.
So it is a multilayered stack. We believe we have a foundation for success here that is unique in the observability industry, and we're all in on driving an genic future in observability utilizing Dynatrace. So this is a major, major thrust for us as we look to the future.

Operator

Pinjalim Bora, JPMorgan.

Pinjalim Bora

Congrats on the quarter. Jim, I just want to go back to a see a bit. How are you thinking of kind of the -- how should we, I guess, should think about the customer behavior and on-demand consumption going forward in this macro? And as you look towards kind of building the guide, how do you thread the needle between the assumptions around incremental ODC component versus last year's ODC leading to larger committed contracts?

Rick McConnell

Yes. It's a good question that I tried to answer a little bit of that with Raimo's question, which is the way we thought about ODCs that we thought about ODCs in the realm of looking at cohort classes, for classes that come up with their contract resets and looking even though our sample size is limited, it's four quarters, how did prior customers behave. We know that contract types vary a little bit. Some customers were in (inaudible). Some customers are not.
So we factored a bunch of things in. But we did apply some conservatism to it because by nature, it is uncommitted. Having said that, everything we've been talking about for the past 30 minutes has been about our focus on driving more consumption and adoption. So to the extent we can do that, you'll either see it hopefully show up in the form of ODC or in ARR. And relative to the macro, it's hard to judge, I'd say, right now, the fact that customers are using more of the platform would tell you that they're getting value out of it.
And so I think the criticality of observability is even greater now than it was kind of a year ago, especially with the evolution of things. But I'd say from a macro perspective, what you might find is you might find customers that maybe commit to a more finite number when they actually have a contractually committed deal.
And they're willing to go into ODCs because, again, we don't penalize you for going over your consumption or your commitment, I should say. And so I think that it's actually good in a tighter macro environment because we're not doing something that pushes a customer to maybe throttle something, they can increase their adoption and we're not utilizing them for it. So it's actually a very kind of favorable vehicle in an environment that maybe customers will be a bit budget conscious.

Operator

Will Power, Baird.

Will Power

Okay. Great. Rick, you've called out the strength you're seeing in partner relationships from a go-to-market strategy perspective. And I think in your prepared remarks, you called out the expectation for material hyperscaler growth in particular. I wonder if you could just kind of drill down for us kind of what really is underpinning the confidence around the hyperscaler trends what you're seeing today versus what you've maybe seen in the past?

Rick McConnell

Well, a couple of things, Will. First, that is where we see the vast majority of the observability growth happening is in hyperscaler workloads. And given that, that's where the majority of the growth is happening in observability, the majority of customers want to take their contractual relationships through the hyperscalers because it utilizes their contractual total spend.
So those relationships become seminal, I would say, in making sure that we have the most frictionless contract vehicle to be able to take orders for hyperscaler workloads, which is vastly increasing. Second thing is we either have entered or in the process of entering various different go-to-market relationships with the hyperscalers such as the one we recently announced with AWS with their SCA program to effectively engage in greater coal.
And when we add the combination of co-sell plus teaming agreements with our other partners, we see very, very strong win rates. So this is one of the reasons we're pushing on it and one of the areas of acceleration potential as we see in FY26.

Operator

Jake Roberge, William Blair.

Jacob Roberge

Just on DPS -- great to hear those customers are still expanding at pretty healthy rates, can you talk about how behavior has trended across the different cohorts that you've onboarded on to DPS? I know early on, there may have been some selection bias there, but now that you've started to get a larger base of customers on the DPS, are you seeing those same types of expansion rates play out across the longer tail of the base?

Rick McConnell

Yes. I mean, it's a good question. I mean, I'd say broadly speaking, the answer is yes, you're right. The early cohort classes were customers that were SKU-based customers that were already pretty significant Dynatrace users, and they just wanted a better vehicle to better consume Dynatrace. But as we've added new cohort classes, we've seen kind of a broader behavior where customers are leveraging more of the capabilities.
And so I'd say that what used to be kind of a sampling bias has become something that's played out across pretty broadly, which is, again, why our focus is get more customers on to DPS as a contracting vehicle, get our adoption teams oriented to try to drive more consumption. We have proven that when we do that, customers will burn through their commitments earlier and they either go through an ODC or they'll do an expansion. And so that's kind of the play that we're trying to run and we feel very good about the traction we made in fiscal '25.

Operator

Keith Bachman, BMO Capital Markets.

Keith Bachman

I also want to ask about DPS in two different guards. A, on the more near term, how are you thinking about the uptake rate for DPS in the next fiscal year? In other words, where do you think you'll end up either as a percent of customers or a percent of ARR?
And then part B of the question is, one of the key benefits of DPS is the ability of customers to adopt your portfolio more rapidly just it reduces friction to buying. And I was wondering if you could just talk a little bit about how you're thinking about thereby portfolio expansion? And you have a couple of key building blocks, obviously, with Grail getting widespread adoption and AI, candidly probably requiring and enabling more adoption.
And part of the context of the question is Datadog candidly, just has a broader portfolio of solutions. And I just wanted to hear you speak a little bit about how you're thinking about your portfolio expansion given the building of the box and given DPS over -- not just the next year, but over the next number of years?

James Benson

Yes. So Keith, I'd hesitate to give you a percentage for fiscal '26 around percentage of DPS customers in ARR other than to say we expect it to continue to grow. I'd say longer term, we do expect, call it, 75% to 85% of our customers ultimately to go on to that. You probably won't get all of them. There will still be customers that want to stay on SKU-based vehicles, maybe government entities, things of that nature.
But I'd say the objective longer term is we get 75% to 85%. So think of that as the vast majority of your business is going to be on this contracting vehicle. And your point about adoption is that is the fundamental premise of DPS. You get them on the -- to the DPS contract and be able to get full access to the platform. If you do look at the capabilities there, I would say that we have quite a few capabilities on the platform.
And even though we're getting some level of penetration, even for us kind of new emerging areas, logs being kind of the most notable, so the fact is 1/3 of our customers are now on logs. But that 1/3 is not spending anywhere near what the opportunity is for logs.
Logs for the reasons that Rick outlined, I think, is we're prime to be disruptive in that area just with the underpinnings of the platform with Grail. And so part of it is getting them to adopt more of the platform. There are a bunch of offerings that we do have even within the kind of the -- there's other capabilities beyond the core offerings of call it full stack infrastructure, DEM, logs, AppSec. There's other kind of subcomponents that we monetize as well. And so it's broader than maybe you're characterizing.
So I think we feel pretty good about that. And the whole thing with our adoption teams is drive more adoption, try to give the customer something that they're getting more value from and leverage the advantages that we have within the platform. And we feel very good about where we are and kind of the strategy to go after that.

Rick McConnell

The short form, Keith, is that we absolutely agree with you that we need to drive the business both in terms of depth of existing capabilities and expanded breadth in areas such as log management, application security, digital experience management with Insights.
We just bought Medis for database observability. So we'll continue to expand the platform in both dimensions. That brings us to the end of our call. Thank you all for your engaged questions and ongoing support to close.
And I think, as you can tell, we are very enthusiastic about the growth opportunities ahead for us. We look forward to connecting with you at our events over the coming months, and we wish you all a very good day.

Operator

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