Unlock stock picks and a broker-level newsfeed that powers Wall Street.
In This Article:
Participants
Michael Imanaka; Senior Development Manager; Alexander & Baldwin Inc
Lance Parker; President, Chief Executive Officer, Director; Alexander & Baldwin Inc (Hawaii)
Clayton Chun; Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Treasurer; Alexander & Baldwin Inc (Hawaii)
Gaurav Mehta; Analyst; Alliance Global Partners
Robert Stevenson; Analyst; Janney Montgomery Scott LLC
Alexander Goldfarb; Analyst; Piper Sandler & Co
Mitch Germain; Analyst; Citizens JMP Securities, LCC
Brendan McCarthy; Analyst; Sidoti & Company, LLC
Presentation
Operator
Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the fourth quarter 2024, Alexander and Baldwin Earnings conference call.
(Operator Instructions) This call is being recorded on Thursday, February 27, 2025.
I would now like to turn the conference over to Michael Imanaka, Senior Manager on the Development Team. Please go ahead.
Michael Imanaka
Thank you, operator. Aloha, and welcome to Alexander and Baldwin's fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings conference call. My name is Michael Imanaka, and I'm a Senior Manager on the A&B development team.
With me today are A&B's Chief Executive Officer, Lance Parker; and Chief Financial Officer, Clayton Chun. We're also joined by Kit Millan, Senior Vice President of Asset Management, who is available to participate in the Q&A portion of the call.
During our call, please refer to our fourth quarter 2024 financial presentation available on our website at investors.alexanderbaldwin.com/events.
Before we commence, please note that statements in this presentation that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by the relevant forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding possible or assumed future results of operations, business strategies, growth opportunities, and competitive positions. Such forward-looking statements speak only as of the date of the statements were made and are not guarantees of future performance.
Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks, uncertainties, assumptions, and other factors that could cause actual results and the timing of certain events to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by the forward-looking statements. These factors include, but are not limited to, prevailing market conditions and other factors related to the company's REIT status and the company's business, the evaluation of alternatives by the company related to its noncore assets and business and the risk factors discussed in the company's most recent Form 10-K, Form 10-Q, and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The information in this presentation should be evaluated in light of these important risk factors. We do not undertake any obligation to update the company's forward-looking statements.
Management will be referring to non-GAAP financial measures during our call today. Please refer to our statement regarding the use of these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations included in our 2024 fourth quarter supplemental information and presentation materials.
Lance will start today's presentation with an overview, then hand it off to Clayton for a discussion of financial matters. To close, Lance will return for some final remarks, then we will open it up for your questions.
With that, let me turn the call over to Lance.
Lance Parker
Thanks, Michael. Great job. Everyone joining us, aloha.
2024 was my first year as the CEO of A&B. And I can't help but reflect on the performance of the company over the past several years compared to our retail peers. It's becoming a REIT in 2017, our same star NOI growth has averaged 3.8% per year compared to 2.3% for the [Nairi] Shopping Center sub-sector.
We began presenting FFO in 2020 and achieved a CAGR on CRE and corporate FFO of 20.4% compared to 9.3% for the Nairi shopping center sub-sector. We achieved these impressive results, but it really wasn't until last year that we were able to fully concentrate on executing our Hawaii-focused commercial real estate strategy.
Throughout 2024, I emphasized our four priorities related to this execution. Operational excellence, balance sheet strength and flexibility, streamlining our business and cost structure and growth. Over the course of the year, we grew our FFO and NOI and saw a strong leasing activity in the portfolio.
We improved our capital structure by refinancing $130 million of mortgage debt with unsecured debt at fixed rates, extended the maturity date on a revolving credit facility to 2028, and established a new At The Market share program.
We opportunistically sold more than 400 acres of non-core lands, enabling us to reduce carrying costs within the land operations segment. And from a growth perspective, thanks to Michael and the rest of our development team, we began construction of our 30,000 square foot industrial assets on the Island of Maui.
Importantly, the team has been busy underwriting other development and redevelopment opportunities. This, of course, is in addition to the 81,500 square foot industrial asset we purchased in the third quarter of last year.
Operationally, we ended the year on a high note with better than expected results in the fourth quarter and for the full year. Same store NOI grew by 2.4% for the quarter and 2.9% for the year. Excluding the impact of collections of prior year reserves, our same store NOI growth was 2.9% for the quarter and 3.3% for the year.
We executed 47 leases in our improved property portfolio representing more than 140,000 square feet of GLA and 209 leases or 630,000 square feet of GLA during 2024. Our blended leasing spreads remain strong in the fourth quarter at 14% on a comparable basis and 11.7% for 2024.
Our leased occupancy was 94.6%, up 60 basis points sequentially, and 10 basis points lower than last year. The sequential improvement was driven by a 230 basis point increase in our retail portfolio due to the backfill of our large vacancy at Waianae Mall.
Economic occupancy at quarter end was 92.9%, down 10 basis points from last quarter, as well as the same period last year. These results were driven by the industrial and office vacancies we previously mentioned. We believe that the short term decline in occupancy will provide long term opportunity through repositioning.
SNO at quarter end was $3.4 million and includes rent for the recently announced Marlin Bar by Tommy Bahama, which we look forward to opening at Queen's Marketplace later this year. And about $1 million of AVR related to our build a suit at Maui Business Park, which is expected to become economic at the end of 2025. We are committed to driving operational results from our CRE portfolio with the mindset that good day to day outcomes are the foundation for long-term shareholder value.
Looking ahead to 2025, the team will be focused on the following objectives. Improving revenue in our retail assets through timely renewals and new leases, increasing occupancy with our industrial portfolio, developing our existing land bank of industrial assets, and sourcing of creative external acquisitions and creative investments.
With that, I'll turn the call over to Clayton to discuss our financial results and guidance. Clayton?
Clayton Chun
Thanks, Lance and aloha, everyone. We closed out 2024 strong with fourth quarter FFO of $0.30 per share, reflecting a $0.03 increase as compared to the same quarter last year. An AFFO of $0.19 per share, $0.02 higher than last year. The year over year FFO and AFFO increase was driven primarily by stronger operating results within our commercial real estate portfolio.
For the full year, FFO was $1.37 per share, $0.28 higher than the prior year. The higher year over year FFO was primarily attributed to higher land sale margins, stronger commercial real estate performance, and improved G&A in 2024.
Full year 2024 FFO also reflects certain net favorable non-cash swap and financing related adjustments that occurred in the first quarter. 2024 AFFO was $1.10 per share or $0.23 higher than the prior year due primarily to higher landfill margins, Siri performance, and G&A improvements.
Each of these metrics benefited from collections of prior year reserves of approximately $1.7 million or $0.02 per share in 2024 versus $2.1 million of collection or $0.03 per share in 2023. During 2024, we continued our efforts to streamline the business and made meaningful progress to improve our cost structure.
We decreased G&A expenses by $4.2 million or 12.4% in 2024 as compared to 2023. We also made significant progress in reducing carrying costs for land operations during the year.
We entered 2024 with the carrying cost run rate of $6 million to $7 million based upon activity during the year. However, we simplified our cost structure and ended 2024, incurring carrying costs totalling $5.8 million for the year and a run rate ranging from $4 million to $5 million. We will continue to prioritize simplifying land operations and we'll provide updates as we make progress throughout the year.
Turning to our balance sheet. We continue to maintain a strong and flexible balance sheet, and during the fourth quarter we took additional steps to further enhance it. In October, we recast our revolving credit facility, extending the maturity to October of 2028 while maintaining the spread on our borrowings. In December, we also paid off our $73 million mortgage, which was secured by Pearl Highland Center.
As of 2024 year end, our net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio stood at 3.6 times. Approximately 96% of our debt was at fixed rates, and our debt maturity profile remains solid with no significant maturities in 2025.
With respect to our dividend, we paid a fourth quarter dividend of $0.225 per share on January 8, and our Board declared a first quarter 2025 dividend of $0.225 payable on April 7.
Moving on to 2025, we are issuing guidance as follows. We expect same store NOI growth of 2.4% to 3.2%. FFO between $1.13 and $1.20 per share, and CRE and corporate-related FFO of $1.11 to $1.16 per share. While we are not providing quarterly guidance, it should be noted that our quarterly metrics may vary due to the timing of certain items throughout the year.
I'd now like to provide some context and highlight important assumptions related to our guidance. First, our theory and corporate FFO guidance reflects a 4.1% increase at the midpoint when normalizing 2024 for the $0.02 of FFO attributed to the swap and financing related adjustments. The increase reflected in the 2025 FFO is primarily driven by core theory performance.
Second, our guidance takes into account the approximately 50,000 square feet of vacancy within our industrial portfolio and 13,000 square feet within our office portfolio that we mentioned last quarter. We have both near term and long term opportunities that we're pursuing for these spaces, and we'll provide information in the future. Our FFO guidance also includes a penny of contribution related to external acquisitions programmed for the second half of 2025.
With respect to G&A, On the heels of achieving a 12.4% reduction in costs in 2024, we will continue to actively pursue opportunities to further simplify our cost structure. But we expect the trajectory of our G&A level to moderate in 2025, ranging from a flat to a $0.01 per share improvement from 2024.
Finally, our total FFO guidance also assumes contributions from land operations ranging from $0.02 to $0.04 per share in 2025, reflecting a modest amount of assumed land sales margin in joint venture income.
With that, I will turn the call over to Lance for his closing remarks.
Lance Parker
Thank you, Clayton. I'm pleased with the strategic accomplishments and operating results we achieved last year. I'm also excited about the prospects for 2025, and I'm confident in our ability to continue executing on our strategy to ultimately drive consistent growth and returns for our shareholders.
For the remainder of this year, I will report on our progress in the context of the following three priorities: improving our CRE portfolio performance, internal and external growth, and streamlining our business and cost structure.
And with that, we'll conclude our formal remarks and open the call up to questions.
Question and Answer Session
Operator
(Operator Instructions)
Gaurav Mehta, Alliance Global Partners.
Gaurav Mehta
I wanted to go back to your comments about your 2025 priorities around external growth. I think you mentioned that you're looking at underwriting more development and redevelopment opportunities within your portfolio. I was hoping to get some more color on what you guys are looking at?
Lance Parker
I've started to, I would say, be a little bit more optimistic in my remarks over the last couple of quarters with regards to -- certainly with regards to external growth. And I would say as we look ahead to 2025 that continues to be consistent. Pricing remains challenging, but we are seeing opportunities in the marketplace, and so I am encouraged by that.
But specific to your question, we will continue to look and mind opportunities on internal growth and so specifically on the development front, we talked about The build a suit at Maui Business Park and that's going to contribute about $1 million to our SNO pipeline.
So something like that we're seeing similar opportunities within the Maui Business Park for potential build the suits, potentially even some speculative development. The industrial market here in Hawaii remains very strong.
And I would say similarly to some of our land bank with industrial properties on Oahu. We've started to see some interest there as well. So, I'm hopeful that we'll be able to make some announcements later in the year with regard to those initiatives.
And then I guess I would just add, this really is for the first time we're being transparent about the fact that we are carrying $0.01 of FFO in our guidance for the full year, and that would be for growth initiatives.
Gaurav Mehta
Second question on your lease expirations for 2025, do you have any known move outs for the leases that are expiring this year?
Lance Parker
Do we have any known move outs? I just want to make sure I understand the question.
Gaurav Mehta
Yeah. Are you expecting like any known -- any move outs within the expiration that you have this year?
Lance Parker
Yeah, Clayton you want to take a step at that?
Clayton Chun
Sure. Last quarter we signalled that there was about 50,000 square feet of industrial move outs for -- that was going to occur in the fourth quarter. We were pleased that 33,000 square feet of that actually stayed in and it's actually still there, and we do have backfill opportunities for that that we're actively pursuing.
We did have one tenant bankruptcy, and that was liberated Brands. Very low exposure overall, about $450,000 of ABR and only about 7,000 square feet in total between one retail asset and one industrial asset.
Lance Parker
And then I would just add Gaurav for some additional color. We do provide our lease expiration schedule in our supplement and given our walt on in any given year, I would expect to see somewhere in the low double digits, low-teens in terms of role. Our role on ABR basis for 2025 is just over 8%. So kudos to our leasing team for really getting ahead of a lot of the renewals and mitigating that risk for us this year.
Operator
Robert Stevenson, Janney.
Robert Stevenson
Okay, finally unmuted me. The bankrupt tenant, [library branch] you said, do you have that space back or is that still in the bankruptcy process?
Lance Parker
We do not have the space back. They're actually still open and operating and doing their liquidation sale.
Robert Stevenson
Okay. Do you have any expected timing? Is that mid-year, late year, 2026 before you get that space back? I know it's not a lot of ABR but or space, but just curious as to your ability to start marketing that space to another tenant in the interim.
Lance Parker
So we expected around mid-year and the good news is that we actually already have some prospects for the space at Queens Marketplace.
Robert Stevenson
Okay, that's great. And then in the supplemental, there was a big jump quarter to quarter in the least occupancy in the retail portfolio. What I think it was like 230 basis points. What drove that?
Lance Parker
Sure. So the primary driver is actually really good news. It was backfill of the Waianae Mall anchor space that we talked about that terminated in January of last year. So the tenant that we did put in there is a community use. The lease is relatively short term, which provides us with future optionality, and it was really capital efficient. It didn't require very little capital outlay. So the good news overall is that we backfilled it very quickly.
Robert Stevenson
And then last one for me, Clayton, beyond the 2% to 4% of land operations, what's the biggest lever that causes you to go to either the low end or the high end of the guidance? What's the biggest swing factors in the guidance range for '25 at this point in the year for you?
Clayton Chun
So for us, I would say that the low end, it's going to involve delayed tenant occupancy or unplanned vacancies. I think that debt could also come into play in terms of the low end of it. And then in terms of the high end of our guidance is effectively the inverse of that. So to the extent that we're able to have our tenants take possession of spaces earlier then that could certainly be helpful for our FFO and the same could be said with respect to bad debt to the extent that we have stronger bad debt collections and just overall tenant health continues to improve, then that would be accretive from us -- from for us from an FFO perspective.
Operator
Alexander Goldfarb, Piper Sandler.
Alexander Goldfarb
So a few questions, just following up on Rob's tenant credit question. Your bankruptcies are obviously very low, and credit for you guys tends to be good. Are you expecting that to continue this year, the one, curious or bad debt reserve, and two, is there something specific about the retailers on Hawaii? Such that maybe they're -- when there are tenant credit issues, the Hawaiian outposts or the last to be affected, just curious about the health -- tenant health out in Hawaii versus the sister locations on the mainland.
Lance Parker
So what I'll tell you is that -- so collections have remained really strong. We're not seeing any signs of overall trouble. Customer traffic on Oahu was actually up year over year and that's where we have most of our centers.
Even though it was flat elsewhere in the portfolio, and tenant sales have remained strong. We exceeded our percentage wrinkle for the quarter and the year. Now, in terms of bad debt itself, the op opportunity set for prior year reserve recoveries has decreased dramatically. In fact, it was down about 40% in Q4 2024 versus 2023.
So obviously that opportunity set going down is a good thing. It means that we're seeing less and less bad debt as we go forward. We don't have a lot of exposure to Green Street's tenant watch list, and we have no real exposure to big bankrupt tenants other than the liberated brands that we just mentioned.
And in terms of your question about retailers, one of the, I think pharmacy is on everybody's mind right now, and I'll give the example of Longs. So Longs is a CVS tenant and in Hawaii, that Long's banner is more seem like a local retailer and all of those stores are very strong and in fact we just renewed one of those stores at Manoa Marketplace because the sales are so high there. So I think there's a little bit of insulation for some of the national brands overall.
Alexander Goldfarb
And then the second question is, legacy overhead from the land business, maybe it was a year or two ago you guys discussed as you exit the land business there were certain costs. I think they were more pension related and disconnected from the actual business but that were harder to reduce over time.
When I look in your presentation, you talk about pretty healthy reduction both in corporate and land business on overhead expense. So I just wanted to revisit some of these stickier legacy land costs. Are you able to accelerate, the unwind of some of these legacy pension costs, or there's a certain level that's always going to be there even after you sell the last acreage of land.
Clayton Chun
So yeah, with respect to the holding costs for land operations, we have made quite a bit of progress in simplifying the cost structure there and that's really corresponded with our ability to just simplify that segment overall.
The composition of the remaining cost, it is a combination of -- you have personnel costs as well as just what I characterize as stewardship. So with the land that we have there, there's just natural costs that are associated with owning the land. And so to the extent that we're able to monetize the remaining non-core lands, there will be variable costs that come out of the system by virtue of that.
It should be noted though that within land operations we do have some aspects of what we deem to be core land holdings and so that would be mainly Maui Business Park. And so we expect to keep a hold of those assets for a longer period of time. So I think it's important to point that out.
Alexander Goldfarb
And then just the final question on the land sales specifically. What is the -- what's your -- what's the buyer appetite out there for land? I have to believe it's only getting stronger, just people seem to like real estate these days.
But what's the buyer appetite and as you whittle the holdings down, is it -- are you ending up with small pockets here and there, or is the remaining still large chunks that are efficient to sell?
Lance Parker
So I'll answer the question in two buckets. One is our true non-core land bucket, which represents, call it about 3,000 acres left in the portfolio. Those are mostly smaller acreages that are disaggregated, unlike the large contiguous swaths of land that we used to have that we sold in our two, actually three big chunks, two on Maui and one on Kauai.
So these would be a little bit more opportunistic, I would say in general land interest remains high. Although financing for smaller agricultural lots, isn't -- I wouldn't, not that it's not plentiful, but that can be challenging from time to time. So that's our non-core bucket and then as Clayton mentioned within Latin operations, we do have Maui Business Park, we do consider that core. And there specifically I will say that interest remains strong.
So this is immediately adjacent to the airport, fully entitled, fully offsite infrastructure, and we are continuing to see strong demand to buy. So that said, I think it's important to note that as we continue to either build out or sell out, we will be taking a much more strategic perspective with regard to Maui Business Park, meaning a stronger likelihood of us retaining lots to build long term for our portfolio as opposed to just selling out the remainder of the business park.
Alexander Goldfarb
Happy to hear that. I know we've discussed that over the years, but given they're not making more Hawaii, looks, I guess, except for beach erosion or whatever, good to hear that you're keeping more than Maui Business Park for selling.
Operator
Mitch Germain, Citizens.
Mitch Germain
So I wanted to ask out -- I just want to ask Alex's question differently. I mean, obviously you talked about cost containment and there's a couple buckets there, right? There's obviously, what's happening on the land side, right, as you sell more, there's also probably some staff utilization changes that are happening there. Is there anything else that is driving that $4 million plus decline year over year?
Clayton Chun
Yeah, so with respect to the $4 million G&A reduction that you're referring to, that was outside of land operations. We have obviously our corporate overhead. There's some aspects of commercial real estate that also has G&A, but that's really been a considerable focus of ours over the past few years. And as we've transformed the company and become a pure play re, we've been able to streamline processes. We've focused on ways in which we can automate what we've done and as well as just from a personnel standpoint, we've had our leadership changes and the like.
And so through all of that we've been able to reap some of the benefits of cost efficiencies that we're now seeing play out. And so that's really what the $4 million-plus efficiency was this past year. So as we look ahead, we're going to continue to focus on identifying ways in which we can be more efficient and streamline our operations further, but as I said in the prepared remarks, for 2025, we're expecting to have that trajectory moderate.
Mitch Germain
And by moderate you mean you're going to have about a possibly a tad more G&A. I just want to make sure what I understand from (multiple speakers) that so moderate.
Clayton Chun
Yeah. So we're expecting to the G&A level overall to be flat to a $0.01 per share improvement as compared to 2024.
Mitch Germain
And the word improvement means better lower G&A -- make sure --
Clayton Chun
Lower G&A (multiple speakers)
Mitch Germain
On the land slide, I never can say these right, but Kapolei Business Park, it was carved out previously, it's no longer there. Is that what was driving the land activity in the fourth quarter?
Lance Parker
We did have a couple of parcels in Kapolei Business Park that we did sell Mitch. So maybe somewhat contrary to my comments about Maui Business Park and long-term strategic for building within our portfolio.
We are very much focused on that. But we did get some pretty compelling pricing to sell two lots that we did have two smaller lots that from a development standpoint could have been done, but on a net present value we determined that the best use or was really to recycle that capital. And so we used that as part of the capital stack in our acquisition of that 81,000 square foot industrial building that we purchased in October of last year. So that did drive part of the activity that was reported in Q4.
Mitch Germain
Last question from me, same store, I think you've got a little bit of a deceleration, that is being implied by your guidance. I'm just trying to understand some of the variables that are the principles that are guiding, where your outlook is being based on for next year, obviously.
Lance Parker
So I'll talk about it in terms of asset classes. So first and foremost on the retail front, we had really strong retail leasing in 2024, and as a result, we expect same growth in '25 to be significant as those spaces continue to go economic and renewal spreads kick in.
On the industrial side, growth will be somewhat anaemic due to that lease terminations we referenced before at Kakaako Commerce Center in [Kamahonna] Industrial Park. But the good news is that we do have prospects for both of those assets, so we expect the rent to turn on quicker than what we originally expected.
And then on the ground side, we don't have any meaningful resets or rent steps in 2025. So growth will be minimal this year.
Operator
Brendan Michael McCarthy, Sidoti.
Brendan McCarthy
I just want to touch on follow up to rent spread. I think last quarter they saw a nice jump above that 7% to 8% blended comparable spread level that we saw in the first half of this year, but it looks like it stayed, pretty elevated for the fourth quarter of '24. I guess were there any one-off items that drove that or is that, I guess what's baked into that 14% number?
Lance Parker
Yeah. Building off of some of Kit's earlier comments, we did see strong leasing activity in 2024. So I would say baseline remained strong. But that said, really exactly to your point, we did have a couple of individual leases that really drove the performance for the quarter, and I would say the one specifically, in Kit's, earlier example of the CVS Long's renewal, that was an example where we got a pretty significant lift in ABR.
It was an anchor space in our Manoa Marketplace Shopping Center, and so that was a contributor to the spread that we received in the quarter.
Brendan McCarthy
Just to clarify, are you optimistic or confident that the year-end spread of that 11.7%. Do you think 2025 we see a level similar to that?
Lance Parker
I'm going to stop short of providing a number or guidance on the spread itself, but what I can say is that based on what we're seeing in the beginning of the year, we do expect leasing interest to remain strong, consistent with the type of interest that we saw in 2024.
Brendan McCarthy
And then one more question for me, just curious on the office exposure in the portfolio. I know it's obviously a small percentage of NOI, but how can we think about that -- those office assets and I think at one point you mentioned they were non-core in general, but yeah, can we think those assets may be repurposed or sold altogether?
Lance Parker
Yeah, so just to provide, a little bit more context just in terms of relative scale to the overall portfolio, we're talking about 4%-ish of NOI, so relatively small. Therefore non-core or non-strategic, I should say small in its impact and non-strategic in that -- that's not an asset class that we view us owning long term. So with that in mind, we do have four assets, three of which are on Maui. I would say the one in Oahu is strategic in core because it sits within a shopping center and so it really acts more like a retail asset than a standalone office building.
And then the three on Maui, we've talked in the past, and I think to the extent that we find appropriate investments, those would be good opportunities for capital recycling. And so we'll certainly keep it in mind as an opportunity as part of our capital that we look to either deploy or redeploy into new investments.
Brendan McCarthy
And I actually just one quick follow-up question here. I think Clayton, you mentioned that growth expectations, you incorporate about $0.01 in FFO per share on acquisitions for the upcoming year. Just curious if you could provide some more color or detail on that outlook.
Clayton Chun
So effectively that's just reflecting or we've been signaling the fact that we're encouraged with what we're seeing overall and the fact that we have been prioritizing growth. And so in terms of what the composition actually is -- we're not in a position to comment on specifics of what that would entail. But it could be a combination of external as well as internal opportunities.
Lance Parker
So I would just add, so effectively it's unspecified growth. So we expect to be able to place the capital and receive that $0.01 throughout the year, but it is not ascribed to anything specific. We did talk about the million dollars of ABR in our SNO pipeline attributed to the build a suit at Maui Business Park. We do expect that to come online at the end of the year and go economic. So it won't have, it'll be a de minimis impact to FFO just because of timing.
So this really is to Clayton's point, just our confidence in the market and our ability to place capital.
Operator
(Operator Instructions)
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the conference back over to Clayton Chun, Chief Financial Officer.
Clayton Chun
Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining us today. If you have any follow up questions, feel free to call us at 808-525-8475 or email us at investorrelations@abhi.com. Aloha, and have a great day.
Operator
This concludes today's conference. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect your line.