Jeff Newton; CFO; Twin Disc, Inc
John Batten; President, Chief Executive Officer, Director; Twin Disc Inc
Operator
Welcome to the Twin Disc, Inc fiscal second quarter, 2025, conference call.
We will begin with introductory remarks from Jeff Newton, Twin Disc CFO.
Jeff Newton
Good morning and thank you for joining us today to discuss our fiscal 2025, second quarter results on the call with me today is John Batten, Twin Disc, CEO.
I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made during this conference call, especially statements expressing hopes, beliefs, expectations, or predictions for the future are forward-looking statements.
It is important to remember that the company's actual results could differ materially from those projected in such forward-looking statements, information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are contained in the company's annual report on form 10-K copies of which may be obtained by contacting either the company or the FCC.
Any forward-looking statements that are made during this call are based on assumptions as of today. And the company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise these statements to reflect subsequent events or new information. During today's call management will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures for a definition of non-GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation of GAAPS in non-GAAP financial results, please see the earnings release issued earlier today.
By now you should have received the news release which was issued this morning before the market opened. If you have not received a copy, please call our office at 262638 4000 and we will send a release to you.
Now, I will turn the call over to John.
John Batten
Good morning, everyone and welcome to our fiscal 2025, second quarter conference call. I appreciate you joining us today.
We are pleased to report another quarter of strong double digit sales growth with second quarter sales of $89.3 million reflecting a 23.2% year over year increase, as we close out a successful first half of the fiscal year, we continue to see meaningful contributions from Katsa Oy which is allowing us to extend our global footprint and deepen our engineering capabilities particularly in Europe and North America.
We remain committed to ensuring a seamless integration of Katsa and are excited to unlock its full potential. Our focus is on capitalizing on cross selling opportunities, optimizing shared cost efficiencies, streamlining our business lines, and maintaining strong execution. At the same time, we are pleased to see continued strength and shipment of Veth products meeting the robust demand for cutting edge electric hybrid and conventional propulsion system.
We are maintaining a healthy backlog across all of our end markets and are encouraged by the continued stabilization with our industrial business over the quarter, shifting to the product segment, sales in our marine propulsion segment grew 23.9% year over year. This performance was driven by ongoing strength in our Veth product line which once again delivered record orders as demand remains consistent globally, incoming orders were driven in part by demand from both New North American projects within commercial applications in the luxury yacht market supported by our Veth roll up partnership.
Meanwhile, increased government defense spending has sustained demand for patrol boat projects mainly driven by evolving market dynamics surrounding ongoing geopolitical conflicts in Southeast Asia and Europe. The integration of that continues to yield meaningful synergy, positioning us to capture market opportunities in conventional electric and hybrid propulsion applications with our hybrid marine transmissions and control system. We remain focused on leveraging these synergies to address evolving customer needs particularly around sustainability and electrification.
In our land based transmission sales increased 19.8% year over year, reflecting continued momentum in our airport rescue and firefighting transmission business where we shipped. a significant volume of units this quarter, as we mentioned last quarter, demand for our vehicles remains strong driven by our advanced configurations, unique torque capabilities and innovative power dividing systems which continue to position us as the supplier of choice. This trend persists as we benefit from growing international airport development, the replacement of aging fleet and the global shift towards emissions compliant transmission.
Turning to oil and gas, exports were down during the ongoing macroeconomic headwinds in the Asia Pacific region and subdued new builds in North America. However, we anticipate momentum will begin to build as we have seen recent uptick in quoting activity aftermarket demand for replacement parts and oil and gas applications remains stable, underscoring the resilience of both our installed base and the demand driven by North American usage trends. As fleets continue to age through the replacement cycle, this indicates the potential for new builds and sustained growth for the business.
Our industrial segment grew 44.8% year over year driven by both the addition of Katsa and a rebound in our Lufkin orders, we are seeing a continued stabilization sequentially within this segment as order momentum from our Lufkin facility has picked up overall segment demand has improved particularly for higher end content industrial products. We believe our continued engineering focus positions us to capture share in markets that demand specialized solutions, whether that's agricultural equipment, construction machinery or other high torque applications.
Our backlog remains healthy and we're encouraged by the rate of sustained order momentum across our portfolio as we executed during the quarter, our six month backlog is lower both sequentially and year over year due to high shipments, foreign exchange also accounted for $11.5 million versus the prior year quarter. As we move through the year, we remain committed to disciplined inventory management and optimizing to lower inventories compared to the backlog.
To conclude my comments, I would like to address the significant progress we have made to date in executing our long term strategy. Over the past several quarters, we have maintained strong focus on our long term strategy and our recent acquisitions underscore that commitment, the successful integration of cost that expanded our engineering capabilities and market reach particularly in Europe and North America. By enhancing our portfolio with Katsa specialized solutions, we are capturing share in industrial end markets that value customization and technical expertise.
From an operational perspective, we have made significant progress in integration, rationalizing inventory, aligning product line and leveraging cross selling opportunities to enhance customer experience. At the same time, we continue to optimize cost through improved supply sourcing, (kone) driven facility enhancement and strategic inventory management, positioning us for sustained margin expansion.
Looking ahead, we will remain disciplined in executing our operational initiatives and exploring additional strategic acquisitions that complement our core expertise by steadily improving efficiency, enhancing profitability and strengthening our technology portfolio we believe we are well positioned to deliver sustainable long term value for our customers employees and shareholders. With that. I will now turn it over to Jeff to discuss the financials. Jeff.
Jeff Newton
Thanks John. Good morning. Everyone. In the second quarter, we delivered sales of $89.9 million for the quarter of $15.9 million or $23.2% from the prior year driven by a $10 million incremental benefit from costa on an organic basis, which excludes the impact of acquisitions and foreign currency exchange revenue increased 10.1% as demand in our global and markets remain healthy.
Net income attributable to Twin Disc for the second quarter was $900,000 or $0.07 per diluted share, compared to a net loss of $900,000 or $0.07 per diluted share in the second quarter of fiscal 2024.Earnings per share were impacted by an increase in other expenses related to interest expense and additional pension amortization in the quarter, gross profit margin decreased to 24.1% compared to 28.3% during the prior year period and gross profit increased 5% to $21.7 million.
The decline in gross profit margins was driven by a $1.6 million inventory write down related to the cost of acquisition as we eliminated redundant inventory along with the $300,000 purchase accounting amortization expense tied to the acquisition and unfavourable product mix in the quarter.
Looking at top line sales distribution, we delivered double digit growth in all three of the marine and propulsion systems, land based transmission and industrial segments.
This was mainly driven by ongoing healthy market demand and geographic expansion including the additional benefit of the cost acquisition and the continued stabilization in the industrial segment which fosters strong year over year growth. Touching on geographic distribution we again saw increased sales in Europe as a result of our acquisition of Katsa as well as a larger proportion of sales from North American markets and strengthen the Veth projects in the region.
Compared to the second quarter of 2024 net debt increased $12.3 million to $9 million in the quarter, primarily driven by an increase in total debt due to the cost of acquisition. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of $15.9 million, 24.3% lower than the prior year. Operating cash generation of $4.3 million was strong in the quarter and EBITDA increased to $6.3 million in the second quarter up 13.5% compared to the second quarter of fiscal 2024. Gross margin decreased approximately 420 basis points from the prior year period largely reflecting the impact of inventory rationalization in our industrial segment as we continue to integrate Katsa and eliminated redundant inventory.
Additionally, we saw unfavourablemix in the quarter which further pressured margins as we move through the year, we are taking a disciplined approach by streamlining operations, optimizing our cost structure and driving efficiency across our supply chain. At the same time, we continue to prioritize higher margin products and services while maintaining a strong focus on pricing discipline.
In terms of inflationary and supply chain challenges we have seen near term shipment delays that impacted the prior quarter, largely subside. On capital allocation our priorities remain the same, we are committed to generating consistent cash flow in order to maintain leverage within a comfortable range. Our primary focus for acquisition is on businesses that complement our expertise in industrial marine technology, allowing us to accelerate growth in these key markets while enhancing our value proposition to customers.
Equally important is our commitment to fuelling organic growth, this means investing in research and development to push the boundaries of innovation, expanding our presence in under penetrated geographies and advancing market efforts to deepen customer engagement and capture new opportunities. By balancing disciplined external investments with thoughtful internal initiatives, we are ensuring that (twin desk) is positioned for sustained growth and shareholder value creation both now and in the future, and now I return the call back to John to share some closing remarks.
John Batten
Thanks Jeff.
In summary, we delivered another strong quarter of top line growth (buoyed) by robust demand in marine and propulsion and recovery and industrial along with ongoing integration successes with Katsa.
While we navigated margin headwinds from product mix, we have made proactive steps to rightsize our inventory rationalization and enhance profitability, our backlog (albeit) lower sequentially due to FX remains at a healthy level and cash flow has improved significantly. As a result of inventory management, we believe we are well positioned for long term growth. Thanks to our expanding portfolio of higher content, high value solutions and increasingly diversified global footprint and a strategic focus on electrification and hybrid systems. We are committed to delivering value to our customers, employees and shareholders through consistent execution and strategic investment, that concludes our prepared remarks and now Jeff and I will be happy to answer your question.
Operator
Thank you. (Operator Instructions)
Operator
And our first question comes from the line of Simon long from (Gabelli Flins).
The line is open.
Jeff John. Good morning.
Jeff Newton
Hey Simon. Just a quick note, John unfortunately was not able to join us for the Q&A session today, but I'm happy to take your question and anybody's question.
Okay. No, problem. Just my quick question the oil and gas, talk about export being down. Can you quantify how much your oil and gas business is this quarter? And how much was it down over a year?
Jeff Newton
Yeah, good question. And I was prepared for that question. It was down, it was about a little under 8% of revenue for the quarter and down compared to the prior year Q2 down about 24%.
Okay. In your preparing mark, you're talking about calling activity remains high, Is that North America according activity or is that Asian calling activity?
Jeff Newton
It's both, it's, North America, it's Asia and also some South American activity as well.
A South America or?
Jeff Newton
Yeah.
Okay. And then, and the, --sounds like the, ordering trend or, activity from the oil and gas customers in light of the change in administration you are seeing them getting back to work. Is that correct? Is that a correct statement?
Jeff Newton
I think it, maybe it's a little bit early to say that, I think what we have been we have seen is, yeah, increased level of activity and some new calls, some new potential projects. --So, it feels like, yeah, we would say it's kind of a renewed level of activity in that market.
Okay, great. And then can you just refresh your (CapEx) outlook for the year and then on the free cash flow, are you still (), are you still targeting to convert 60% EBITDA of free cash flow?
Jeff Newton
Yeah, I mean, that's (certainly) our goal, right? And we, as we talked about after Q1, we had a difficult Q1 for a variety of reasons in terms of free cash flow bounced back nicely in Q2 --free cash flow in Q2 of about $6.4 million. So --yeah, we are still targeting to get to that 60% of EBITDA -- I (think it's a bit of a) stretch this year given the difficult Q1, but you know, we are on a good trend now.
Following Q2 In terms of CapEx, I think no big change there. --You know, we were, I would say a little bit behind pace, we have spent --something like $5 million through the first half of the year, we have some bigger projects coming through in the second half. --I think in the range of $12 to $14 million is, probably where I would like to (peg) it right now.
Okay. If I can squeeze, one more in, if I can, you talk about R&D investing in R&D to expand the market or to capture growth in market, anything that you can talk about --that you, you're being, that's being commercialized this year that will contribute to growth.
Jeff Newton
No, I don't think there's anything that we are ready to talk about specifically in terms of new products and new technologies. I think, we continue to focus on the hybrid electric market and, and that's an ongoing development we get, we continue to get more --and more traction there, more orders, more interest, more activity and, we continue to expand our capabilities in that, in market and that's a big focus --for growth for us.
Perfect. Thank you.
Operator
(Operator Instructions)
Jeff says no since no one is asking questions. Just let me get one more in, the electric, the electric frac fleet that you are. --You're piloting about 23 (quarters) ago. Any, uptake on that --product.
Jeff Newton
Yeah, I would say it's, stable, it's ongoing. I would not, I wouldn't say there's anything newsworthy in the quarter that, we could share. It's just an ongoing process for us.
Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you.
Seems like there are no more questions in the queue that includes our question and answer session. It also includes this conference call.
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