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Participants
Tiffany Willis; Senior Vice President, Investor Relations; Starbucks Corp
Brian Niccol; Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Starbucks Corp
Rachel Ruggeri; Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President; Starbucks Corp
David Tarantino; Analyst; Robert W. Baird & Co Inc
Andrew Charles; Analyst; TD Cowen
Danilo Gargiulo; Analyst; Bernstein
David Palmer; Analyst; Evercore ISI
Brian Harbour; Analyst; Morgan Stanley
Chris O'Cull; Analyst; Stifel Nicolaus and Company, Incorporated
Jeffrey Bernstein; Analyst; Barclays
John Ivankoe; Analyst; JPMorgan
Katherine Griffin; Analyst; Bank of America
Peter Saleh; Analyst; BTIG
Christine Cho; Analyst; Goldman Sachs
Lauren Silberman; Analyst; Deutsche Bank
Sharon Zackfia; Analyst; William Blair & Company
Zach Fadem; Analyst; Wells Fargo Securities, LLC
Jon Tower; Analyst; Citi
Presentation
Operator
Good afternoon. My name is Diego, and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to Starbucks first-quarter fiscal year 2025 conference call. (Operator Instructions)
I will now turn the call over to Tiffany Willis, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Ms. Willis, you may now begin your conference.
Tiffany Willis
Thank you, Diego, and good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss Starbucks first-quarter fiscal 2025 results. Today's discussion will be led by Brian Niccol, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Rachel Ruggieri, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
This conference call will include forward-looking statements which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ from these statements. Any such statements should be considered in conjunction with cautionary statements in our earnings release and risk factors discussed in our filings with the SEC, including our latest annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly report on Form 10-Q.
Starbucks assumes no obligation to update any of the forward-looking statements or information revenue, operating margin and EPS growth metrics on today's call are measured in constant currency and represent non-GAAP measures. Please refer to the earnings release and our website at investor.starbucks.com to find reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to their corresponding GAAP measures.
This conference call is being webcast, and an archive of the webcast will be available on our website through Friday, March 14, 2025. Also for your calendar planning purposes, please note that our second-quarter fiscal year 2025 earnings conference call has been tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, April 29, 2025.
And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Brian.
Brian Niccol
Good afternoon and thank you for joining today.
Over the past four months, we've been focused on getting Back to Starbucks and those things that I've always set us apart -- a welcoming coffeehouse where people gather and where we serve the finest coffee, handcrafted by our skilled baristas.
We believe it's the fundamental change in strategy we needed to solve our underlying issues, restore confidence in our brand, and return the business to sustainable long-term growth. While we're only one quarter into our turnaround, we're moving quickly to act on the Back to Starbucks efforts we outlined on our last call. And to date, we've seen a positive response.
As Rachel will outline in greater detail, our financial performance met our expectations for the quarter with a total company revenue of $9.4 billion, a global comparable store sales decline of 4%, a global operating margin of 11.9%, and overall earnings per share of $0.69.
To be clear, these results have room for improvement, but I'm confident the disciplined investments we're making in labor, marketing, technology, and stores this fiscal year will help stabilize the business and position Starbucks for future growth.
We're also working to change the role, structure, and size of our support teams to improve efficiency and accountability. This will ensure we deliver on our commitments and our work to get Back to Starbucks. Let me share with you some of the progress we've made to the quarter and what we're focusing on next.
Our path Back to Starbucks in the US is driven by four core initiatives: re-introduce Starbucks to the world, deliver the customer experience to win the morning, reestablished Starbucks as the community coffeehouse, and ensure Starbucks is the unrivalled, best job in retail, recognizing our success starts and ends with our green apron partners.
During the quarter, we moved quickly to refocus the business, our mission, and our marketing to align with our core identity as the premier purveyor of the finest coffee in the world. We started by reducing the frequency of discount driven offers resulting in 40% fewer discounted transactions year over year.
We also removed the extra charge for non-dairy milk, customizations, and identified several other steps we can take to make our pricing architecture more transparent for customers. And just this week, we launched a new coffee for U.S. marketing campaign, re-introducing the brand to a broader customer audience.
Our work to re-introduce our brand is just beginning but our core business is already strengthening, demonstrating that when we talk about our business customers respond. Through the quarter, we saw a shift in our sales mix towards coffee and espresso-based beverages, which over-delivered and compensated for lower-than-expected performance across our holiday promotions.
We've been focused on simplifying our menu to position partners for success, improved consistency, drive customer satisfaction, and enhance our economics.
As part of this work, we made some late simplifications to our holiday-product lineup, and believe we have more opportunity ahead as we follow a disciplined stage gate process to innovate and bring to market fewer, better beverage and food offerings that reflect our premium positioning.
In the coming months, you'll see us begin to optimize our menu offerings, resulting in roughly 30% reduction in both beverages and foods skews by the end of fiscal year 2025. As we do, we'll work to lead this market with breakthrough beverage and food innovation. We'll do this by being responsive to customer trends, and their changing preferences.
We'll rely on our highly engaged green apron partners for inspiration, like we did with our lavender lineup last year, and we'll be more responsive, in tuned into cultural moments, like we did with the Dubai module. We also saw continued improvement in comp trends, driven by Back to Starbucks efforts launch during Q1.
Non-Starbucks Rewards customer traffic grew quarter over quarter. Starbucks Rewards membership and spend grew, both quarter over quarter and year over year, and price parity for non-dairy milk customizations brought back lapsed Starbucks Rewards members.
Our US category share among QSRs also recovered in Q1 following two quarters of decline. These things tell us our actions are resonating with customers. Progress like this shows me that the Starbucks brand is still resilient and strong, and that we have significant future potential.
More importantly, it shows that we can sell more of our core beverages simply by demonstrating our premium value. A key part of the premium value we provide is quickly and consistently delivering a high-quality, handcrafted beverage to customers.
The handoff from our barista to customer is our brand moment of truth, and we've been working hard to get that moment right. Through the quarter, we've continued to test and learn as we position the business to achieve our four-minute-throughput goal with a moment of connection. It's become clear to our pilot work that order sequencing creates more of a bottleneck than capacity.
In short, investments in staffing and deployment, processes and algorithm technology, demonstrate the greatest opportunity to deliver a four-minute wait time in most of our cafes. As a result, we've started to segment stores by transaction volume and are now targeting installation of Siren equipment only in our highest-quartile stores where it is needed to meet our throughput expectations.
We've also invested additional coverage hours across more than 3,000 US-company-operated stores through precision scheduling, introduce new brewed coffee and tea routines, and simplified beverage builds. And soon, we launched a pilot across 700 stores looking at staffing levels to improve our green apron partners' ability to serve the world's finest coffee with a moment of connection.
We'll use learnings from this to inform the future investments we need to make and store coverage hours deliver both an exceptional partner and cut customer experience and further differentiate our brand.
Looking forward, we'll begin to pilot a new in-store prioritization algorithm and are exploring other technology investments to improve order sequencing and our efficiency behind the counter.
We're also progressing effort to build on the strength and popularity of the Starbucks app. This includes development of a capacity-based timeslot model that allows customers to schedule mobile orders and a mid-year update that will simplify customization options, improve upfront pricing, and provide real-time price changes as customers customized beverages.
Lastly, we're planning to fully deploy digital menu boards and cafes across our US company-owned stores over the next 18 months to make our offerings more easily understood and to better show customization add ons. We also made strides to reestablish Starbucks as community coffeehouse to make it easier for our customers enjoy a cup of coffee their way. Condiment bars will be back in all our US company-owned stores by the end of the week.
We re-introduced ceramic months and handwritten notes on cups to better connect with customers and elevate the cafe experience for those who choose to stay and work. We rolled out new cafe service standards and expanded free refills on hot and iced brewed coffee, and tea to non-Starbucks Rewards customers and participating stores.
We announced the new coffeehouse code of conduct to prioritize our spaces for customers, and we continue to target a full rollout of Clover Vertica brewers by the end of fiscal year 2025.
We're taking a hard look at our store portfolio as well. In the US alone, we still see the potential to double our store count while improving the overall health of our portfolio. We'll do this through a strong store renovation program, new store builds, and store closures. And we're going to make sure our stores are warm welcoming with work continuing on store design standards and costs to build.
Early customer and partner reactions to our plans show we've got the right strategy. Both the re-introduction of condiment bars in the expansion of free refills were identified as top drivers of purchase intent.
In the coming months, our teams, we focused on refreshing our menu boards and improving cafe merchandising to reflect the coffeehouse feel and better showcase our simplified menu. We'll starting an expanded test of risers and shelves at the point of handoff to help separate the cafe and mobile experience, and we'll begin to scale projects to increase and diversify seating across more of our cafes.
To deliver a great customer experience, we also have to deliver a great partner experience. It's why everything we do starts ends with our green apron partners, and why I'm committed to ensuring Starbucks is the unrivalled best job in retail.
In the past quarter, we more than doubled paid parental leave for eligible US store partners, and we made a new commitment to promote from within 90% of retail leadership roles over the next three years, helping thousands of partners grow their careers and their incomes. As a result through the quarter, shift completion, average hours per partner, partner retention, and hourly partner engagement improved.
Looking forward, we'll continue to prioritize efforts that help our green apron partners succeed, both at work, through continued improvements to our staffing model and in their lives through industry leading benefits, competitive pay, and careers that create lasting economic opportunity.
Turning to International, I've had a chance to see our operations in Italy, Japan, and South Korea and meet with our international license business partners over the past few months as I shared with them many of our international markets setting an example for the experience we aim to deliver in the US and present a great long-term opportunity, particularly as we continue to grow our store footprint and recover our business in certain challenge markets.
Just last week, I also made my first market visit to China. While there, I saw firsthand the strength of our brand, our team, and the premium customer experience we offer. I saw how dynamic the market is and the opportunities ahead. I also stall several near-term changes we can make to stabilize and strengthen our business while continuing to explore strategic partnerships to grow in China. We're processing these learnings, and we will share more as we do.
For my time there, I also believe there are several lessons we can learn from the strength of our supply chain in China to realize opportunities in our North American business. If you take one thing from today's call, let it be this: despite near-term challenges, we have significant strengths and a clear plan.
The response we've seen since fundamentally shifting our strategy to get Back to Starbucks gives us confidence, we're on the track to turn the business around. We are where we want to be one quarter in, but much of our work is just beginning.
As we continue to learn and implement our Back to Starbucks plan, I believe, we'll make it easier to the customer, and in turn, I believe they'll visit more often. We'll also find more ways to set our partners up for success so they're able to deliver a great customer experience every time.
In doing so we'll reinvigorate our brand, drive stronger financial returns, and return Starbucks to growth. There is important work ahead, and I look forward to bringing you along.
With that, I'll turn it over to Rachel.
Rachel Ruggeri
Thank you, Brian, and good afternoon, everyone. As Brian shared, we're pleased with our start to fiscal year 2025 with our Q1 performance meeting our expectations. Our Back to Starbucks strategy has already driven early progress, including gradual top-line improvement, giving us confidence that we're focused on the right priorities.
Our Q1 consolidated revenue was 9.4 billion, flat to the prior year, reflecting 7% net new company-operated store growth over the past 12 months, offset by a 4% decline in comparable store sales. Our global comparable store sales decline was primarily due to a 4% decline in the US. US comparable store sales improved sequentially throughout the quarter, most evident in the morning day part as non-Starbucks Rewards customers grew from our strategic shift to broader marketing.
Our ticket growth in the US remains strong at 4% due to the benefits from the prior year pricing, attached and fewer discounts. These drivers more than offset mix shift into lower-priced beverages and removal of the extra charge for non-dairy milk customizations.
Turning to store growth, we opened 377 net new stores globally in Q1, and in the US, our new company-operated stores contributed nearly 90% revenue incrementality to the trade areas.
As we continue to evaluate our stores globally, we will make disciplined decisions to further strength and grow our portfolio, re-establishing ourselves as a community coffeehouse as we drive sustainable, long-term growth.
Shifting to margins. Our Q1 consolidated operating margin was 11.9%, contracting 380 basis points from the prior year, primarily driven by deleverage and the investments in support of Back to Starbucks, including Star Partner wages, benefits and hours, and the removal of the extra charge for non-dairy no customizations. That contraction was partially offset by annualization of pricing and out-of-store efficiencies, largely within our supply chain.
Given the Q1 margin contraction, I wanted to provide additional insight into the investments as well as the offsetting efficiencies. Let me start with investments -- a critical, initial step to get Back to Starbucks turnaround. As Brian shared, to deliver our customer experience to win in the morning, we invested additional coverage hours to support the service model of a four-minute wait time and enabling our hospitality point of difference, moments of connection.
These additional hours, coupled with wage and benefit rate increases, resulted in 180 basis point margin pressure in the North American segment, excluding labor productivity. As we focus on delivering the customer experience, we continue to evaluate labor needs across our store portfolio as we surgically optimize staffing levels.
As you likely saw, we dialed up our marketing communication, including linear TV media, as part of our priority to re-introduce Starbucks to the world. We were pleased with the positive customer reactions and improvement in our comp trend.
Overall promotional spend, which is inclusive of marketing spend and discounts, remains largely neutral relative to prior year. To improve value perception, we also removed the extra charge for non-dairy milk customizations, an impact of 60 basis points on the segment's margin in the quarter.
Following this announcement, we saw strong increases in customer interactions with our brand, as Brian shared previously. Additionally, non-dairy customizations grew mid-single digits year over year, off a double-digit decline in the prior year.
Collectively, these targeted investments are showing signs of early progress. While there is a near-term impact on margin, we expect that to our disciplined approach to test and learn, we will make the right investments to drive long-term growth. Importantly, we also continue focusing on driving efficiencies across the company as we balance our investments, while driving margin expansion over time.
In Q1, our in-store efficiencies increased as a result of improved partner stability as we focus on the Back to Starbucks strategy. At a store, we further optimized our supply chain and recalibrated rates, resulting in meaningful sourcing efficiencies in the quarter.
Collectively, in and out of store efficiencies, yield savings of approximately 150 basis points in Q1. We'll continue to secure additional efficiencies to help fund investments as we leverage a disciplined and data-driven approach to our turnaround.
Shifting from efficiencies to G&A. For fiscal year 2025, we expect our G&A percentage to be higher than prior year as we lap lower performance-based compensation. Specific to Q2, we expect G&A as a percentage of revenue to spike as we transform the support organization, incurring near-term structuring charges, inclusive of severance pay and related benefits.
At this time, we're still working through the impact this transformation work, and we'll share more details regarding the financial impact during our Q2 earnings call.
Q1 EPS was $0.69, down 22% from the prior year, primarily reflecting the impact of deleverage and heightened investments. Q1 EPS also included a $0.02 year-over-year benefit from a lower effective tax rate, primarily driven by a discrete item, which is not expected in the balance of this fiscal year.
Now looking at our full fiscal year 2025, although our guidance is suspended, I'd like to provide some insights into our quarterly earnings shape. EPS is expected to be the lowest in Q2 on an absolute basis due to seasonality, the organizational restructuring I just spoke about, and elevated investments, with year-over-year pressure also testifying in the quarter. EPS is then expected to improve in the latter half of the fiscal year 2025, both sequentially and year over year.
Some additional aspects to consider as you think about our full-year 2025 include the coffee landscape and our channel development segment. In regards to the coffee landscape and the trajectory of C price, given our overall practices and hedging strategy, our year-over-year coffee price impact was minimal in Q1. We currently estimate Q2 EPS to be pressured by approximately $0.01 net of hedge gains.
As a reminder, our total cost of green coffee is typically limited to 10% to 15% of our product and distribution costs. In addition to the direct coffee pressure on EPS I just mentioned, C price volatility also impacts our channel development segment and in a more meaningful way. Although we can pass this cost to our business partners, higher prices to an already pressured consumers will likely impact our segment volumes and ultimate revenue and profitability.
Finally, our balance sheet remains strong, and we remain committed to our triple B plus credit rating. We continue to prioritize shareholder value through dividends, providing a predictable return of capital while we turn around our business.
In closing, we are encouraged by our Q1 results, which demonstrated the effectiveness of our Back to Starbucks strategy. Although we are in the beginning chapter and have much more work ahead of us, my thanks goes to our incredible partners across the globe who are unwavering in their commitment to bring our strategy to life.
And with that, Brian and I are happy to take your questions. Thank you. Operator?
Question and Answer Session
Operator
Thank you. (Operator Instructions)
David Tarantino, Baird.
David Tarantino
Hi. Good evening. My question, Brian, is on the sales improvement you saw through the quarter. I believe Rachel mentioned that comps improved as the quarter progressed, I guess, can you talk about whether that was comparison related, or do you think they're seeing some underlying structural improvement? And if you're seeing some structural improvement, what do you think is driving that in terms of the key components of your plan? Whether it be advertising or store operations, maybe you can frame that up for us? Thanks.
Brian Niccol
Yes, you know, as Rachel said, the good news is we did see kind of sequential improvement throughout the quarter. And I think I mentioned this in some of our remarks, the thing that it was nice to see is as we stepped away from discounting and went into more broad-based marketing efforts to demonstrate the craft of our coffee as well as the experience -- or the premium experience you get from Starbucks, we saw non-Rewards customer respond with more traffic and more transactions, which was really nice to see how they progress quarter to quarter.
The other thing too that was nice to see as we saw our morning day part continue to show improvements quarter to quarter as well. And so I think it's a combination of shifting the approach as far as reaching both Rewards and non-Rewards customers with, I think, a compelling message around the craft and the quality of our coffee and our experience.
And then also, I think our partners in the stores are really embracing getting Back to Starbucks and enjoying making the espresso drinks and providing people that craft experience. And, as you've seen even most recently, the new Back to Starbucks rollout that we've got in progress in some stores, even this morning and the energy, is really exciting to see, both from our partners and our customers.
Our customers are feeling the enhanced experience coming from our partner. So definitely baby steps in both of these areas, but all moving in the right direction.
Operator
Andrew Charles, TD Cowen.
Andrew Charles
Great, thanks. Brian, can you talk a little bit more about [dressy Legrand's] plan of attack to help build the initial marketing work around introducing the brand and curious to last year's disclosed about $50 million of advertising spend, what level can we think about for 2025? You can comment on that as well.
Brian Niccol
Look, what we are definitely doing right now is switching the dollars out of discounting into, what I would call, working dollars for the brands and the brand experience. And so what you're going to continue to see is, you might have saw we just broken new ad over the weekend, highlighting the key point of difference for Starbucks, which is centers on our connection that our baristas and our great partners have with our customers. And one of the ways that comes through is writing on cups.
And so what I love about this is, before taking these dollars, allocating it to talk about the brand experience and it in such a way where it's very executable for people to actually experiences through our partners in the stores. And so you're going to continue to see us use the dollars to turn it into working dollars to drive towards a brand commitment, but then also an experience commitment, where hopefully, every time you come into a Starbucks only to get your coffee drink, but you also get this connection, and that's we're going to continue to do.
I think we're still finalizing exactly what does that spend look like ongoing. But I like the transition that we've made, and I'm optimistic about the campaign that we've just started because there's a lot of additional elements still to come.
Rachel Ruggeri
The way to think about it too, from a marketing as a percentage of revenue, we are increasing it. You can say close to doubling it, but we've reduced the discount. So we've increased our overall net revenue while we're putting it towards, as Brian said, the working dollars in marketing. So it's neutral to the business overall, but you will see a shift in terms of how it shows up in the P&L and in the business.
Operator
Danilo Gargiulo, Bernstein.
Danilo Gargiulo
Hi, thanks for taking the question. Brian, I was wondering if you can help us quantify the impact of the operational improvements that you're starting to see at Starbucks. Maybe specifically if you can help us understand maybe what percentage of the stores are operating in line with the four-minute handover timeline that you're expecting on the stores and what kind of comp differential do you see between the stores that are operating at the level of efficiency that you're expecting versus the ones that need some incremental time to transform? Thank you.
Brian Niccol
Yes. So what we've done so far is we definitely put the stores into kind of core tiles as it relates to how many transactions they're working through. And what we've -- through this work, what we've discovered is more of the challenge comes through, frankly, the mobile ordering system not having a sequencing system.
And what happens is that counter area gets really crowded, congested. And what occurs for our partners is the work switches to the task of just trying to get drinks and food solved for the rush, as opposed to be being able to consistently deliver the moment of connection while they still deliver the coffee drinks.
And so the good news is we have a high percentage of stores that are already comping positively because when we look at those stores, we see that the connection and the craft is being executed, and we're not in as many of these bottlenecks situations.
And so that's what we're focused on is how do we eliminate these bottlenecks situations for the mobile ordering really overwhelms kind of the production experience to the point where we can no longer provide a great service experience.
And so we've seen the difference in performance. We've seen the difference in, and that's from a comp and financial performance, and we've also seen the difference in partner satisfaction, customer satisfaction.
And so we're working through exactly how we measure these things because, unfortunately, currently we don't have a great sign system in place to measure the timeframe on these things which we are putting into place.
But as I mentioned earlier, the good news is I was in one of our stores this morning, we've already started to put this algorithm in that happens behind the scenes and it smooths out, I would say, those rushes of mobile orders such that our teams are able to provide great moments of connection for the in-cafe customer and the mobile order customer as well as our drive-through customer.
And we're two weeks in on this, by the way, and in only in three stores, but we're seeing really good performance, both in the financial performance, partner satisfaction, and customer satisfaction.
Operator
Sara Senatore, Bank of America. Sara Senatore, please unmute yourself. We'll move onto the next question.
David Palmer, Evercore ISI.
David Palmer
Thanks. I wanted to ask you a question about productivity. There was a previous belief that there might be a $4 billion productivity opportunity over the four years ending 2028. Obviously, that's a big number, could be 250 to 300 basis points of margin held up before considering other investments. And that was going to be largely COGS driven. Do still see the Starbucks -- I still see that sort of opportunity before considering investments you might be making in the business?
Rachel Ruggeri
David, this is Rachel. Thanks for the question.
What I'd say is we're continually focused on efficiencies, and we see continued opportunity, both in our store as well as out of store, which is largely, as you pointed out, COGS or through our supply chain. As I shared in my prepared remarks, we had -- collectively about 150 basis points of margin expansion this quarter due to efficiency.
So we continue to believe that's an important part of how we think about our Back to Starbucks strategy. Helping us to balance the investments we'll be making and eventually leading to margin expansion over time. But I think, as far as it relates to the 4 billion, we're still working through what's going to be the right level of efficiencies for us as we go forward.
And so on I wouldn't stick to the 4 billion. I would just say that we will continue efficiency work as we think about how we're driving margin expansion in the future.
Operator
Brian Harbour, Morgan Stanley.
Brian Harbour
Yes. Thank you. Good afternoon. Since that announcement you made about support organization, you've also made some management changes. What needs to change there? I guess, how much do you expect that to change? And related to that, Rachel, I understand the comments on G&A in 2Q. Is this something where you might expect some favorability as we get into 3Q, 4Q and you start to see those changes take hold?
Brian Niccol
First of all, I would say the purpose of the changes is to get more accountability into our key lines of business. So you saw we have a -- we're creating the role of a Chief Stores Officer. Mike's responsibility is going to be all about driving excellence in our stores. We're putting a Chief Development Officer in place. Again, ensuring we're building the right sites with the right design at the right cost and return, while still having a clear line of sight.
And so similar to what we're trying to do for driving that accountability through our stores, which is really where the business happens, we wanted to make sure that we've got the support center also focused on supporting the stores in an efficient manner to where the business happens.
So structurally, that's what's going on. And we're in the process of evolving that over the next couple of months. On the second half of that, I'll let Rachel chime in on that piece.
So, Brian, in terms of your question about the G&A and the impact, as we think about the full year, we would expect, while we have the spike in Q2 as I shared in my prepared remarks, we would expect to see -- start to see some savings in Q4 related to that particular effort.
But I think what's important to remember is that we're also lapping lower performance-based comp this year, and that starts to take an even greater impact in Q3 and Q4. So net G&A this year will still be higher than prior year as a percentage of revenue, largely given that lack of lower base performance comp from last year.
But and yes, you would expect just from the restructuring itself, you would see some benefit in Q4. And then of course, we will expect this will drive leverage over time.
Operator
Chris O'Cull, Stifel.
Chris O'Cull
Thanks. Brian, as we've thought about the business, our view has been that improving the partner experience is somewhat intertwined with improving the customer experience. Are there specific customer experience issues you believe the company can resolve that should also help improve the employee experience? And sort of related to this, when do you expect that the mobile order algorithm changes to be implemented?
Brian Niccol
Yes. Look, I think you're absolutely right. The idea of setting up our partners to be successful in every customer interaction results in great experiences for our customers and they are highly intertwined. And I actually believe that's why it's so Important that we have got kind of that great greeting moment, and that great handoff moment.
And what I'm seeing in the kind of the early days of this small pilot is just that where two things are happening. One the partners are set up to deliver these craft drinks with a great human touch or connection at the speed that makes our customers feel really great about getting their drink or their total order.
So they're kind of working in tandem because what the algorithm does is it takes the stress out of the system of having the partner have to figure out how to solve these mobile orders that just came in that weren't sequenced.
Now what it does is it sequences those mobile orders so that it can allow the cafe order to get fulfilled in a timely fashion and with the touch of humanity. And the same thing happens with the mobile order because now we're better sequenced up for when people come in to give them their drink.
So, you know, we're going to continue to expand the pilot for some other things. We want to test around it with also adding the idea of timeslots. How that compares to just changing promise times. So ideally, you know, over the next couple of months, we're going to get a lot of learning, which then will give us clarity on the right timetables to rollout, but don't have definitive timing just yet.
Operator
Jeffrey Bernstein, Barclays.
Jeffrey Bernstein
Great. Thank you very much. Brian, I know comps always garner outsized attention, and justifiably so, but just wanted to talk about unit growth for a minute. And I know in the US, obviously, the unit growth could be a more consistent driver of top line. And I think you said opportunity to double the store count in the US, I believe you're referring I guess to that company-operated system which in the US is already pushing 10,000 plus.
So the doubling I guess caught me by surprise, that was above my expectation in terms of the total addressable market. I'm just wondering, as you think about that doubling, what would I think from a rate of growth that's appropriate as you look to achieve that, maybe how you arrive at that doubling? And are there particular geographies or store types that have greater opportunity than others? Just curious how you think about the TAM in the US and that opportunity.
Brian Niccol
Yes. One of the things I'm really excited about is our ability to execute a smaller format that still has a great C, okay, and delivers the partner experience or the engine behind the counter so that we can provide these craft drinks in a timely manner with that personal touch.
And so when you combine our ability to do the drive-through, the cafe, the mobile ordering in small, medium, large executions, it just starts to open up trade areas that you get really excited about. And we're having tremendous success in places like Texas or the Southeast. And as we continue to open stores in those areas, they open with great economics.
And that's what gives us a lot of confidence versus our other markets that, frankly, we have a lot of work to do on just resetting the estate. And so that we have the right mix of the small, medium, large and the right mix of the access points.
The good news is the brand has a lot of flexibility in how we execute the experience, and that's what gives us the confidence that we could double the store count. And then obviously, we get the sequencing figured out on mobile ordering. I think that just frees us up to another degree that we still haven't totally comprehended, I guess.
Operator
John Ivankoe, JP Morgan.
John Ivankoe
There's definitely some conversation about perhaps limiting the menu in the morning of products that are really some of the high repeat products that will be focused on, speed, accuracy, and consistency and maybe opening up the afternoon in a product set. And we're more differentiated and have a more customizations. I wanted to get your thought if that was a possibility of maybe having different offerings in the AM and PM at Starbucks.
And secondly, and I think related to that, food-warming cabinets does seem to be one of the quote, unquote, easiest ways to speed up transaction time, specifically in the drive-through. Could you give us an update on that element of Siren, specifically in terms of what you might expect to roll out today?
Brian Niccol
Yes, thanks for the question. And look, that's one of the key pieces of driving our digital menu board execution is that does give us the flexibility to do the merchandising of kind of different food experiences are drink experiences in the afternoon versus the morning.
And as I mentioned, I think in my prepared remarks, we are dialing back on the menu, both in food and beverage, to the tune of roughly 30% between now and the end of our fiscal year, which then frees us up, frankly, to make sure we've got, what I would call it the right food offerings in the morning.
And then also we're looking at how do we provide the right kind of snacks, less food offerings as you get further into the day. And like I said, the digital menu boards allow us the flexibility then to merchandise accordingly.
Regarding the hot-rolled equivalent, what we find is that's a great solution depending on the volume or transactions that we have in the store, regardless of whether there's a drive through or not. And so you're right, obviously, if we had a hot hold, when the person just shows up to the order board, it could be much faster, but we find that trade-off in that hot hold versus just cooking it fresh to order at those moments. it's not the right trade-off in investing in that type of equipment and also the experience that you get from.
So right now, it's much more contingent upon the volume thresholds than it is moving speed along kind of for all day kind of experiences, is the way I've described it.
Operator
[Katherine] Griffin, Bank of America.
Katherine Griffin
Hi, thanks. Can you hear me?
Rachel Ruggeri
Yes.
Katherine Griffin
On behalf of Sara Senatore. So earlier, I think, Rachel, you are talking about having less promotions as a positive impact on revenue. I think the goal from here is to move towards more of a traffic-driven same-store sales growth model, but we didn't see much of that this quarter.
I think you mentioned that promotional transactions are 40% lower year over year, but can you quantify what the impact of that was on ticket and was that because of fewer promotions? And then I guess to the extent that you're encouraged by and these results. Is that what you're looking at, you're looking for more full-priced sales?
Rachel Ruggeri
I would start by saying we're looking for a combination. I mean, our Rewards customers continue to be incredibly important, but we think value as we speak to all of our customers. And as we shifted out of at discounts to a more broad-based marketing, that's helped us reach a broader base of customers, which this quarter even we're early in the turnaround, we saw the signs of progress.
As Brian had shared, we had growth in the morning day part we had growth across our customer base that our non-US customers grew quarter over quarter. And importantly, we saw their growth as high as where we were about a year ago. So that gives us a lot of confidence that it's the right strategy.
And in terms of the impact on ticket, as I had shared in my prepared remarks, our ticket in North America was about 4%, a little over 4%. And within that ticket, that was benefiting from annualized pricing, but also benefited from fewer discounts. And that was partially been offset by the mix shift towards lower priced items as well the decision have made to remove all a pricing.
So we see that removal of the discount or shifting of the discount, we're still discounting, but shifting the discount as a way for us to strengthen ticket, but also to strengthen the overall proposition as we speak to more customers more broadly.
Operator
Peter Saleh, BTIG.
Peter Saleh
Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Brian, I wanted to ask about the Siren System. It sounds like you guys are only going to implement this and the highest-quartile stores Just curious, sounds a little bit of a difference from what you were initially expecting last quarter. I know it's early, but why don't the other stores, the remaining system, need it and can they get to the four-minute coffee time without the system? I'm just curious as to the timing on rolling this Siren System out of the top performing stores. Thanks.
Brian Niccol
Yes. Look, you're right, it is a new learning that we picked up over the last couple of months specifically as we've gotten very focused on getting the four-minutes solution and bringing order to mobile ordering. And what has become clear is it's not in most stores is not driven by a lack of capacity. It's more the process combined with the algorithm to sequence the mobile orders with the cafe.
So there's a threshold where the volume gets to a place for the additional equipment is necessary, but definitely happening in like the top quartile of stores. And in the majority of our stores, just kind of putting the right process, the right deployment, combined with the algorithm, we see a big unlock in transaction throughput capability.
So that's what we're focused on. And you know, it's a learning we picked up over the last couple of months in. I think this is what's great about taking the test and learn approach is as we learn we adopt, and what we're adopting towards is make sure that we get the best experience for both the partner and our customer.
Operator
Christine Cho, Goldman Sachs.
Christine Cho
Thank you. So Brian, as you come into the coffee business with a fresh pair of eyes, as we're hoping to get your assessment of the challenges of drawing younger customers back into stores. Do you still view this as an important strategic focus in your turnaround plans in North America.
And if so, why do you think there are more hesitant? Is it premium prices? Is it that they're drinking less coffee in general. Are they attracted to more local coffeehouse and, more importantly, how do these observations inform your menu and marketing strategy going forward? Thank you.
Brian Niccol
Yes. Look, obviously, I think we've talked about this. One of things we want to do is broaden our reach. So, you know, we've said we want to be winning with Gen Z all the way through to the over 50, 60 crowd. And what we've discovered is, and this is actually a really nice piece of the businesses, the younger customers definitely attracted to the whole tea proposition that we have, the matcha latte solution.
You might have seen we've most recently brought out the unsweetened matcha and that caught a little bit the social media buzz with the Dubai matcha. And so what we're seeing, we're seeing nice movement actually in all age groups. And you know, it does appear that if we bring smart flavors with tea, refreshers, cold beverages, that's inclusive of eating iced coffee or cold brew, we continue to see the progress with the younger customer.
So I think it's just a much more balanced approach, is how I describe it, as opposed to a you know what we're just focused on young and cold drinks. That's not what we want to be about. We want to you about being a solution, frankly, for all those that want that third-place experience with a customized handcrafted drink.
And the nice thing is we can do that through tea. We can do that through cold. We can do that through coffee. And so we're seeing nice progress on all those fronts.
Operator
Lauren Silberman, Deutsche Bank.
Lauren Silberman
Thank you very much. I wanted to ask about the partner investment you've added, additional hours to 3,000 stores, you talk about that 700-store pilot, how you're assessing the current level of staffing across the US system and magnitude of investment that might still be necessary? And then to what extent do you have the opportunity to offset these investments to other areas I think your run rate margins or leverage be enough? Thank you.
Brian Niccol
Yes. So we put in the labor into those 3,000 stores from a precision standpoint, which was really just going back and look at the labor tables to find out where, potentially, we've just gotten too thin in certain areas. And so we've implemented that. The good news is we've seen a positive response on that front.
In regards to the pilot that we've just about to kick off. This is all about understanding the labor model necessary to have a great customer connection for our partners, deliver the speed and handcrafted experience we want.
And what we know is, if we do all those things, our partners are excited about the job at hand and our customers love the experience that they receive. And we see that playing out as it will come more often, and it further differentiates the Starbucks business in the premium that we provide.
So this is all about delivering the brand experience, reinforcing the premium experience that you get, and doing things, frankly, that you really can't get anywhere else. When you get a hand-crafted beverage with the personal connection that we provide, it's a huge point of difference. It's meaningful for our partners and it's meaningful for our customers.
And just like recently, we're bringing back the rating on cups and bags. The feedback I've received from our partners is they love delighting their customers. And what I've heard from our customers is they love getting these messages in moments of connection from our partner.
So this is back to the core of what makes Starbucks a unique experience, that we're working towards understanding what type of model do we need to deliver that experience. And then we will figure out how we can grow the business accordingly with that type of invest.
As Rachel mentioned, longer term, what we're looking for is to grow margins from where we are today and grow the business from where we are today. The goal of doing all this isn't just to standstill. The goal in doing all this is put the brand on its front foot, established a premium value, the premium experience that we provide, and then used as a launching point to grow the business both from transactions that then play out into, obviously, the economics.
Rachel Ruggeri
If I would just add to that really quickly, Lauren, what I would say is when we think about the labor investments which are -- we have a precision staffing model we use, so they are targeted. While there is a near-term impact, there is a near-term unfavorable impact as we make these types of investments. It will be accretive to the business longer term as these investments will drive traffic to Brian's point.
That's why we're doing this and so it wouldn't be in every store. I mean, it's really what the store needs and it's based on that precision staffing. So I think about it, first and foremost, the way we make this work is through traffic and ensuring that we drive the traffic over the longer term and then to balance all the investments we're making.
While we do expect these investments will be accretive, and now we'll see broader traffic improvement from these collective investments that we're making. I do think it's important to just remind that we will continue to work on efficiencies as well. We still have opportunities in the business across our business to be able to balance this. And all this will lead to margin expansion in the future.
Operator
Sharon Zackfia, William Blair.
Sharon Zackfia
Good afternoon. I guess as I think about the different channels that you have commented in North America, whether it's walk-in and drive-through, our mobile, what part of the equation is the furthest off from that four-minute total? And as you think about labor deployment, is there a way to kind of disaggregate the production of those channels as they come in to make it more aligned?
Brian Niccol
Yes. Look, thanks for the question. I will tell you we probably right now the biggest challenge is the fact that the mobile ordering has no sequencing, it's just first in, first out. And when you compare that to how drive-through works on all the access points, drive-throughs are very, I would say, controlled access point, right?
You've got the queue that creates a governor. You got the order board where we actually give a great greeting, and then you get to the window, and we give a great handoff. That operates pretty well. We have really good metrics. We know how to get window times we're after. You, obviously, have the unexpected order that might slow things down, but we can recover quickly.
The place where we run into problems, frankly, is the fact that there's just no gating on the mobile orders. And the problem we run into is you've seen this, you know, all these orders come flooding in. Frankly, they come flooding in faster than even our customer can get there. So all these drinks are sitting on the counter and it's at the expense of providing any other experience for a customer that's right in the store.
The thing I'm most excited about this morning, I swung by this is one of our stores with this pilot, and there was no congestion at the counter. And what's also really nice is seeing cafe customer. You know, I love this term we have around -- they ask for their for here cup, and they're like we call it a mug hug, right, that they're like holding on to that ceramic mug, and they're enjoying their moment in the cafe. And there's not all this congestion surrounding the counter. So it's just a much more pleasant, peaceful coffee experience.
Then, meanwhile, when the mobile order customer comes in, the drinks or synced up in rhythm with people coming in to get their drinks and go. And so that's what we're after. And that's why I go back to this. But we put a lot of things in place, I think and reorder rate, the coffee condiment bar.
The other thing, it was great, this was unexpected, but literally one of our customer, she stopped me and said: Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for the coffee condiment bar. Because she was able to do her own customization and be on her way.
And then we change the operation of getting brewed coffee right at the POS. So it was a really fast transaction for that customer that chose to come into our store, brewed cup of coffee, customized for themselves, and move on.
And so what we're after is getting rid of that choke point that happens around the counter. And it really happens because right now, mobile ordering system is a first-in, first-out proposition, and we got to fix it. And that's what we've got a full court press on solving the sequencing of that to deliver these moments of connection in what I would think is a reasonable time period, call it four minutes or less.
So I was really excited about what I saw. And the good news is we've got a lot of stores that are doing it. And then when we make this better with technology behind it. I just think there's -- the brand will be right back where it needs to be, which is a premium experience, it's a crafted experience. It's an experience that our partners provide with some level of humanity, but you actually don't get anywhere else. And it just creates an environment where you'd like being there, whether you're a partner a customer.
Sorry, long answer that. But this is what I'm most excited about because it was really good learning over the last couple of months to understand where we got a zero in in order to get the unlock.
Operator
Zach Fadem, Wells Fargo.
Zach Fadem
Good afternoon. Brian, on the four minutes or less, how does in-store compare to MOP today, as I think it was a few quarters ago, there was a high mix of customers that walked away from MOP orders due to high wait times. So curious if you could talk about where that's trending today.
And then separately, just big picture, if you were able to get all transactions under four minutes, how would you frame that, the comp opportunity?
Brian Niccol
Yes. Well, I would frame it as it will go up, as you know. And what I would also tell you is the news is we've got some really good learning that when the mobile order promise time gets beyond 15 minutes, that's we have people kind of bailing. So, you know, we're testing is if you can do these time slots or if you can do these promise times in such a way where it doesn't get past, let's call it 12 to 15 minutes.
And then we know we're going to delight the mobile order customer and then that frees up the capacity so that the in-store customer can have roughly a four-minute experience. And what we've seen over and over again is when that happens, now granted, this is my pilot store and go and offer, everything starts to move in harmony, right?
It's like the partners are rush or overwhelmed. So they have the ability to provide the experience, the connectivity that we want the craft and the product that they want to provide. The customer feels like they're seeing their valued. They've been heard and they have a moment of connection. And that's what we want to ultimately deliver.
That's, frankly, why Starbucks is Starbucks. Because, in the end, you get this craft-customized beverage in a reasonable amount of time in a way that actually has a touch of humanity that you, frankly, may not get in other parts of your day.
And as we improve that experience, it's really amazing to see just how the whole vibe of the coffeehouse just kind of calms down and you can settle in, and the for here, where the ceramic mugs and glasses and plates just add another level of like, hey, this is this is a spot where I can slow down, take a minute while I'm connecting with others or just taking a minute for myself.
This is what occurs at the same time for the customer that needs to get in get out. We're setting them up for success to. Versus right now, the first in, first out mobile situation overwhelms the proposition times and when it happens, it's not good. And so we got to figure how we don't let those instances occur ongoing.
Operator
Jon Tower, Citi.
Jon Tower
That's great. Thanks for taking the questions. Quick clarification, then a question. Real quick on the clarification, please. On the second quarter, are you, from an EPS growth standpoint, suggesting that it's going to be lower than what we saw, the 23.5% contraction in the first quarter, in the second quarter. That's the clarification.
Then on the question, please. I'm just curious, Brian, like from a high level, you guys are that the global coffee leader with respect to sales and the footprint and yet you hold a premium price points across many of the markets and menu items.
So can you help us think through now that, obviously, you're talking about even doubling the store base in the US to something like 34,000 stores over time, how you how you think through the company's -- how you balance the two forces of being the most distributed potentially and yet keeping pricing and price points where they are today, and what that means for pricing power over time?
Rachel Ruggeri
Jon, I'll start, and I'll take the first part, which is, yes, we expect that margin and earnings will, on an absolute basis will be the lowest in Q2. That's based on seasonality, but it's also reflecting the organizational restructure as well as the elevated investments.
What that means is earnings year-over-year pressure will intensify, and that's largely driven by the and the organizational restructure. So that's how I'd think about Q2. But then we would expect gradual improvement in the back half of the year. And specific to EPS., we would expect that you'll see improvement sequentially and year over year in the back half of the year.
Brian Niccol
To your second question, look, I think this is where innovation has to be a part of our model. And the good news is it's also one of the things that's always been a part of the Starbucks business. And you're going to continue to see us innovate on food and beverage.
It's going to be, both from a standpoint of making sure that we've got the right pricing architecture across the menu and that it also serves the rate occasions, whether it's a morning occasion or an afternoon occasion as well as age. We want to make sure we got the right flavors and tea slash coffee. So that were relevant for the different taste profiles based on people's age.
So innovation is going to be a key piece of the puzzle to keep the brand relevant, to keep the menu relevant. And then when you do that innovation, we're going to be very cognizant of the pricing architecture that we're bringing forward to support still pays a premium experience, but we want to make sure we maintain being accessible.
And so you're going to see us leverage food and drink innovation to carry the day as it relates to pricing architecture, occasions, as well as taste.
So I think that was the last question. Yes. Okay. Well, let's wrap up.
So first of all, thanks for all the questions. You know, obviously, I'm a couple of months into this, but truly energized by the just seeing the resiliency, the humanity of this brand and the relevance of this brand around the world.
The opportunity to travel not only kind of coast to coast, but then to Asia, and Europe, and Latin America, it really is so inspiring to see what our brand is able to do for our partners and our customers around the world.
And along those lines, I do want to say a big thank you to all our partners around the world because they make the brand so special. And we're committed to doing is making sure that we create the systems so that we can continue to provide that special experience for everybody.
So Q1, obviously, in 2025 results, met our expectations, clearly show some signs of progress. But I think it's clear we still have much work to do. The good news is I feel like we know the work that we need to do, and we're working to build a Starbucks that I think we'll all be really proud of because we've got a clear mission and purpose.
And we're going to, once again, be loved for our coffee, loved for the warmth, love for a welcoming coffeehouse, the green apron partners that we have. There's a great peace in our building when you walk around here, and when a question is asked like which one word that describes Starbucks? And the word that get written off on the well is love.
I think that should not be lost in what we're trying to do for our customers and our partners. So, it's a critical year in front of us. We have a lot of work to do to get Back to Starbucks, but I believe we do this work. We will position the company for tremendous future growth. And I want you to also hear we're moving quickly on all these things. I'm committed to executing with excellence. And once we have clarity on those things will deliver our commitments.
And so look, in closing, I'm confident that we're going to create economic opportunity for our partners, providing experience that is worth it for our customers, and generate long-term sustainable returns for our shareholders. So this is why we love doing these jobs, and I'm just really excited about what's in front of us at Starbucks.
So thank you for joining us and have a great afternoon.
Operator
This concludes Starbucks first-quarter fiscal year 2025 conference call. You may now disconnect.