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Daniel Donlan

Thank you, Mark. Looking at our first quarter earnings, we report a net income of $1.7 million or $0.02 per diluted share. Core FFO for the quarter was $24.6 million or $0.30 per diluted share, and AFFO was $26.2 million or $0.32 per diluted share, which is a 3.2% increase over last year.
Turning to the expense front, our total recurring G&A in the quarter increased 5% year-over-year to $5.1 million, which is mostly the result of increased staffing and further investment in our team. That said, with our total recurring G&A representing 11% of total revenues this quarter versus 13% in the prior year quarter, our G&A continues to rationalize relative to our revenue base.
Turn to the capital markets. On January 15, 2025, we closed on a $275 million of additional financing commitments. This included a new fully drawn $175 million senior unsecured term loan which was swapped to an all in fixed rate of 5.12% through final maturity in January of 2030, and an upsized $500 million revolving credit facility which was increased from $400 million.
We also extended the maturity date of our existing $175 million term loan to January 2030 from January 2027 and amended all of our existing credit agreements to remove various financial covenants that provide for improved pricing when we meet certain investment grade rating and leverage targets.
Turning to the balance sheet, our adjusted net debt, which includes the impact of all forward equity was $724 million. Our weighted average debt maturity was 4.1 years, and our weighted average interest rate was 4.57%, including the extension options which can be exercised at our discretion if no material debt maturing until February 2028.
In addition, our total liquidity was $584 million at quarter end, which consisted of $14 million of cash on hand, $385 million available on a revolving credit facility, and $184 million of unsettled forward equity. From a leverage perspective, our adjusted net debt to annualized adjusted EBITDAre was 4.7 times at quarter end, which remains well within our targeted leverage range of 4.5 to 5.5 times.
Moving on to guidance. With no credit loss events realized this quarter, we are increasing the low end of our AFFO per share guidance to a new range of $1.28 to $1.30 which continues to assume 2025 net investment activity of $75 million to $125 million and recurring cash G&A of $14.5 million to $15.5 million.
From a rent loss perspective, our guidance now assumes roughly 75 basis points of unknown rent loss at the midpoint of our range, which should site recent macro uncertainty, should prove conservative as the year unfolds.
Lastly, on April 25, the Board declared a quarterly cash dividend of $0.21 per share. The dividend will be payable on June 16 to shareholders are record as of June 2. Based on the dividend amount, our AFFO pay ratio for the first quarter was 66%.
With that operator, we will now open the line for questions.

Question and Answer Session

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Haendel St. Juste, Mizuho Securities.

Haendel St. Juste

Hey, guys, good morning. Wanted to talk about the appetite you're seeing out there for the pharmacy and Dollar stores. Looks like you're, been able to make some continued progress here and sell it some pretty decent cap rates. So maybe some color on the appetite, the pricing you're getting, and maybe a sense of timeline to get your Dollar General, CVS and Walgreens exposures down to your target levels.

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, sure Haendal. Yeah, so I mean I think we on the last call mentioned that the timeline for all tenants would be to get them below 5% by 1031, which we continue to expect to be able to hit that timeline. Walgreens may be a little bit different. I think we'll try to get that below 3% since it's at 3.7% currently.
There continues to be a pretty robust amount of interest from institutions and from 1031 buyers on the Dollar Store side. So I'd expect us to continue to make a lot of progress, both with Dollar General and even with Family Dollar, we've got a number of those properties in the pipeline to sell.
And then, we do have a few pharmacies also that we expect to sell here before our next earnings call. Walgreens with the news the Sycamore, we do have a pretty good idea of what that balance sheet's going to look like, which I think is going to be a little bit lower levered than what I think some people may fear. So once that information gets out, I think that's certainly going to help. But we continue to see interest from the 1031 market as it relates to Walgreens.

Haendel St. Juste

That's great color. I appreciate that. Maybe a follow up on the debt side. Dan, I think you mentioned, I think you have an expectation of pursuing a ratings upgrade here. So maybe some color on what you're hearing from the agencies, potential timing of potential upgrade, and any sense of what estimated savings on the debt side could be. Thanks.

Daniel Donlan

Yeah, hey, Haendel, so we haven't started our preliminary discussions yet. We're preparing for that. We don't have a rating as it sits today. We've been through this process before at other companies, both Mark and I, so we have a pretty good understanding of what it would entail.
I think as we sit here today we're kind of targeting going out to certain rated agencies in the latter half of this year. And if you just look at kind of the covenants as well as the terms that we received in our newest credit agreement as well as across the term loans, that should result in about 20 basis points of savings.
On top of that there are other industry things occurring that probably will result in us receiving another 10 basis points of savings, so I think all in where we could gain an investment grade credit rating for one of the three major rate agencies. We're looking at least a 30 basis points reduction across, not only the -- our term loans and the credit facility as well.

Haendel St. Juste

Thank you guys.

Operator

Greg McGinniss, Scotiabank.

Greg McGinniss

Hey, good morning. Just want to clarify, make sure I understand your initial comments on the net investment activity. So if nothing were to change from Q1, you'd be in a position to exceed the net investment guidance range. And follow up to that is whether or not the transaction market has changed much following April 2.

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, no. I think what we would not look to increase our acquisitions if nothing changes related to our equity price. So the good news about us being in capital recycling mode is that we have continued to be very active on the acquisition side, matched up with a lot of disposition. So in the event that our stock price improves from here, we'd be in position to be able to hit the gas pretty quickly.

Greg McGinniss

Okay. And has there been much of a change in the transaction market since April 2?

Mark Manheimer

No, not since April 2. So we continue to see just a lot of great opportunity. And so whether that be with convenience stores, quick service restaurants, a lot of different sectors, auto service amongst others where -- we've got a lot more opportunities than we do capital right now, but we're hopeful that changes.

Greg McGinniss

Okay, last one for me. The bad -- the 75 bps of bad debt expense built into the guidance at this point, is there -- does that include any allotment to specific tenants or is it more of a safety margin catch all.

Daniel Donlan

Yeah, I mean there really isn't any specific in there. It's really solely for unknown events based upon what we see here today.

Greg McGinniss

Okay, thank you both.

Operator

John Kilichowski, Wells Fargo.

John Kilichowski

Good morning. Thank you. Maybe the first one for me, could you give us an update maybe on the progress around the releasing of your Big Lots asset in Maryland?

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, absolutely. So we've had a lot of interest from a number of retailers. There is a competing shopping center that's being built down the street. And so the current dynamic, we'd like to kind of really see that play out a little bit more.
There's a lot more demand than there are opportunities, and so we have some retailers chasing that location as well as ours. And so I think that it may take a few months just to kind of see how that plays out, but we were in possession of a handful of LOIs that are pretty attractive and we're actively negotiating. But we think, if we take our time a little bit, we may get a better outcome here in the next few months.

John Kilichowski

Okay, and just to confirm that's not included at the high end of guide?

Daniel Donlan

No, we don't have anything in 2025 for that.

John Kilichowski

Okay, thank you. And then the last one for me is just how do you think about the Walgreens take private and does that change the risk profile of those assets to you?

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, no, it does not. I think the fact that you now have a company solely focused on the retail operations rather than a very complicated business, I think that's helpful. Sycamore has proven -- you look at what they did with Staples really over the past decade, that was a company that I think a lot of people didn't think very highly of a decade ago when they acquired them, and they've done really an outstanding job with that.
And we -- the fact that they're not going to lever it up and focus on the operations, really speaks to our confidence that it should continue to be a going concern and that -- and we have locations that do really well. So even in the event that they decide to close some more stores beyond what we're expecting, we don't expect those to be our stores.

John Kilichowski

Got it. Thank you.

Mark Manheimer

Thank you.

Operator

Michael Goldsmith, UBS.

Michael Goldsmith

Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my questions. In your prepared remarks, you mentioned that you're going to see some strong dispositions of low cash yields in the second quarter. Within your guidance you only provide the net number, so maybe you can provide a little bit more clarity around the expectations of how the portfolio should change over the next period, while from a volume, from a tenant type perspective, and also from a cap rate perspective, thanks.

Mark Manheimer

Yeah sure. And so it's always a little bit tricky because we don't control whether the disposition is closed. We know what LOIs we've signed and we know what's under contract and we know who's hard on their deposit. So as you progress through that timeline, obviously you get more confidence that the buyers are going to close.
And so we've got some Advanced Autos, we have some Dollar Generals, we've got some Family Dollars, and we have some pharmacies all in that mix. And then we'll also look to sell assets that aren't in those categories if we feel like the performance of that particular asset isn't doing as well.
I mean, you saw that we sold a Lowe's in the quarter that was due to having conversations with the tenant and understanding that of our four locations going into the year, that was the weakest location. So we were able to sell that at a 6.5% cap rate. So I'd expect that to be the mix. There may be kind of one or two assets here or there that kind of fit that Lowe's type profile where the asset isn't doing as well and the rest in those other categories.
The cap rate on the dispositions is going to be kind of mid to high 6% cap rate depending on what closes. And then we're going to try to match fund as best we can on the acquisition side, and that's what we'll continue to stay within the acquisition guidance on a net basis, but I'd expect it to be somewhat similar to what you saw in the first quarter.
(multiple speakers) On the acquisition, I think you'll continue to see that, north of 7.5%.

Michael Goldsmith

Got it. And on the other side of the coin, your exposure to grocery was up 150 basis points, but maybe not in the top 20 turns, so maybe you could talk a little bit about where you're stepping into, where you're leaning into, you just better understand how the portfolio is changing and the underlying tenants within the grocery category. Thanks.

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, no, that's a great question. So you know we added one of the largest ESOPs in the country, focused on larger grocers that generate a lot of cash flow within the four walls that we're buying in strong retail corridors.
And so where we can find tenants that may or may not have an investment grade rating where we're getting attractive economics and good growth in the lease, those are the types of acquisitions that we're looking to do. Quite frankly, we don't have a ton of grocers in the second quarter like we did in the first quarter, but that is a sector that we like a lot.

Michael Goldsmith

Thank you very much. Good luck in the second quarter.

Mark Manheimer

Thanks Mike.

Operator

Smedes Rose, Citibank.

Smedes Rose

Hi, thank you. I just wanted to ask you, as you reduce your exposure to the Dollar stores in General and you think about where there's Dollar Tree and Family Dollar combined stores, are those targets for dispositions or kind of what happens to those of those two brands separate?

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, no, absolutely. And so there is going to be a little bit of movement where, if you may go to Dollar Tree, they -- most of those are going to go with Family Dollar. We do have a handful of those under contract to sell just to reduce exposure to Family Dollar.
And so I'd expect most of what you see in the supplemental for the combo stores to go over to Family Dollar. But we're actually selling both Family Dollar locations and combo stores.

Smedes Rose

Okay, and then I think last quarter you talked about in your guidance you're anticipating settling the forward equity in the second half of the year. Is that still the case or would you anticipate maybe extending that, depending on your acquisitions?

Daniel Donlan

Yeah, I think right now Smeads there could be some in the second, there could be some in the third. I think the bulk of it probably comes in the fourth. We could always extend it if we wanted to. We're optimistic that based upon catalysts that we see propelling our shares further this year, that we'll be able to get out and raise a little bit of equity to increase potentially our net investment activity. But as we sit here today, if we don't do anything I think you're likely to see us take down most of it by year end.

Smedes Rose

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Michael Gorman, BTIG.

Michael Gorman

Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Mark, you talked a bit about how there's a lot of opportunities in the marketplace versus where you are with your cost of capital, which I completely understand at this point. I'm just curious internally, when you look at that and when you screen these opportunities and decide on what's going to close on the transaction pipeline, what are you primarily solving for here?
Is it tenant? Is it a tenant that's not in the top 20? Is it yield? Is it credit rating of the tenant kind of -- what are you triangulating for as you pick the best deals out of the investment volume that you're seeing?

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, no, it's a good question, Michael. Yeah, I mean, we're obviously trying to diversify the portfolio, so that we've got a handful of tenants we're really not trying to add to currently. But we're looking at pricing as well as where we're getting the best risk adjusted returns.
And so we've been somewhat agnostic as to whether it's an investment grade rated tenant, if it's an investment grade profile. If we've got a lot of belief in that management team and it's got a strong balance sheet and it generates a lot of cash flow, both at the corporate level and within the four walls that we're buying, and that's really how we triangulate our way to risk adjusted returns.
And that's where we're going to deploy capital, where we can get the best risk adjusted returns, and we've been pretty pleased, I mean a 7.7% blended cap rate for the quality of assets that we're adding to the portfolio, I think is really encouraging, especially if we get the opportunity to hit the gas.

Michael Gorman

Great, that that's helpful. And then Dan, I won't ask how close we are to the inflection point, on the cost capital side, although certainly there's been progress year to date. I was wondering if you could just kind of walk us through the strategy again on the forward equity though.
You've got about $185 million or $184 million of unsettled versus the midpoint of net investment guidance of $100 million. How far out can you extend some of that unsettled equity if -- as we go through the year?

Daniel Donlan

Yeah, I mean we could look -- we could -- we've already extended it once. I don't think we'd get much pushback if we extended another 6 to 12 months beyond kind of year end. And look, I'm happy to answer the question.
I mean, as we sit here today, you think about our implied cap rate, we have a positive spread and we look at our implied cap rate relative to where we're buying. If you look at our WACC, as of today, spot WACC, we're 120 basis points, when you think about the 7.7% cash yield that we achieved in the first quarter, which we think, again we can potentially achieve that again in the second quarter.
So we do have 120 basis points of spread. But so I would say that the light is green, but it's limish green right now, and we just want to be patient. That's why we didn't take up our net investment activity guidance despite having capability to do well north of what we're doing as we've shown historically.
So we do think there's a value disconnect. We think there's positive news to come out on our story that will continue to drive the shares higher. And so we're just being patient, with our cost of capital and that's really where we are and we look forward to kind of updating you guys on everything, next quarter and throughout conferences coming up here shortly.

Michael Gorman

Great, appreciate the time guys.

Operator

Wes Golladay, Baird.

Wes Golladay

Hey, good morning, everyone. On that comment about potentially being able to hit the gas, you have a sound like you have a decent pipeline, just need the cost of capital to improve. If you were to do more volume, would you still be able to maintain the 7.7% cap rate or do you think it'll go down to maybe mid to low 7%?

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, and I think we'd likely -- if we were to do similar volume to what we did in the fourth quarter, I think we're probably about a 7.5% cap rate. So it would come down a little bit. But I think there's enough depth in what we're looking at right now where it wouldn't come down more than 20 basis points.

Wes Golladay

Okay. And then when you look at your (inaudible) sell or your pending disposition pipeline, is that mostly tenants you're looking to pair back exposure to? Do you have any opportunistic sales in there and it would you provide seller financing for any deals?

Mark Manheimer

We have not provided seller financing, recently. But when you look at what we're selling, there is one opportunistic sale that I expect to close in the second quarter, and then the rest of what we're looking at selling is going to be Family Dollar, some Dollar General just to reduce that exposure as well as pharmacy.

Wes Golladay

Okay, thank you.

Mark Manheimer

Thanks Wes.

Operator

Ki Bin Kim, Truist Securities.

Ki Bin Kim

Thank you. Good morning. I was curious if you could comment on new store opening appetite, especially from those parents that -- from those tenants that might be more potentially exposed to tariffs.

Mark Manheimer

And which stores are opening stores or would we look to acquire some of those stores. Just making sure I understand.

Ki Bin Kim

Just overall kind of more new store opening appetite.

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, now, look, I mean, we're seeing a lot of our tenant roster are still in growth mode. So we've got healthy operators that continue to do well. Some are subject to tariffs, some aren't. I do think you've seen that muted a little bit.
It's just very difficult for companies to make decisions right now with all of the uncertainty. But the ones that have been growing historically over the past 12 months, we expect to continue to grow and they've reiterated some of that on their earnings calls.

Ki Bin Kim

Okay. And on the acquisitions this quarter, you're able to achieve a 7.7% yield, which was nice to see. Yeah, I'm sure there's a range of, some deals in the low 7s and maybe some others in the 8s. I was just curious if you can provide some commentary on the types of assets that you're buying at the higher cap rates and the kind of credit quality. Thank you.

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, sure. I mean, two-thirds of what we bought was investment grade or investment grade profile, which honestly we don't really see a big difference between investment grade profile and investment grade. In fact, I'd say the investment grade profiles typically has a better balance sheet and stronger financial statements than what you'd see with a with a BBB company.
The range wasn't that wide this quarter. I think you kind of cut the range pretty accurately. The acquisitions that we've acquired at the higher ends, there's maybe some (inaudible) that are in pretty heavy growth mode, but there are larger operators that where we're getting unit level financials that have rent coverage of north of 3.5 times in some cases north of 4 times. So very attractive real estate at a replaceable basis.
So we don't really feel like we're taking on much more risk. In fact, I'd say the risk adjuster returns for what we're acquiring at the higher cap rate range is certainly stronger than a lot of what we're seeing on the investment grade side, where we continue to just not see a ton of movement with cap rates for investment grade retailers.
Unless you're willing to take on what we call really (inaudible) risk, which is going to be -- you get more of a shopping center type lease where you've got co-tenancy and you've got use restrictions and things like that that don't show up for a long time, but when they do show up, they fight pretty hard.

Ki Bin Kim

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Linda Tsai, Jefferies.

Linda Tsai

Hi. Albeit not where you want it to be, your stock has done really well year-to-date, to the extent the environment doesn't get better. How comfortable are you continuing on this path of capital recycling mode with acquisitions funded by dispositions? Or how do you think about capital allocation over the next 12 to 18 months to the extent market volatility continues?

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, sure, it's a good question, Linda. I mean, we think we have a lot of work still to do. We've obviously accomplished a lot here in the last few quarters, but we'd like to get the concentrations inside of what our long term ranges were that we've told investors for the last several years.
We're just kind of expediting that a little bit. And fortunately, I think we're going to continue to be able to make progress on that. And once we've really gotten to our goals, if we're still not trading, where we need to be, then I think there's other alternatives for us to explore.

Daniel Donlan

Yeah, and Linda, I'd say, keep in mind that you know our comfortability in terms of leverage is 4.5 to 5.5 times. If we hit the high end of our net investment activity guidance, we'd probably in the year right around 5 times. So you know we can still operate well into next year within our comfortability range that we've provided to the company or to the street.

Linda Tsai

Thanks.

Operator

Daniel Guglielmo, Capital One Securities.

Daniel Guglielmo

Hi everyone, thank you for taking my question. I think it was the last call where you all said it seemed harder for private buyers to get bank financing for leases with non-investment grade tenants. Have you seen that continue to play out these last few months, or has anything changed there?

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, I don't think there's been much change in the market. I think you've seen some banks willing to lend and some not. We really see that more on the disposition side. When we're looking to sell, we've had to do a little bit more handholding to try to help some buyers source some bank financing, and fortunately we've been pretty successful at that.

Daniel Guglielmo

Okay, I appreciate that color, thanks. And then as a follow up, I think you had mentioned it, but the investment grade profile for this quarter's acquisitions was around 66%. Are you expecting kind of that same mix for acquisitions going forward based on the visible pipeline or any changes there?

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, I mean, I think we're just going to chase where we're getting the best risk adjusted returns. We've had quarters where 100% of what we acquired in the quarter was investment grade. We've had quarters where it was 20% or 30%.
And so we just really aren't as dogmatic as people might think about whether something is a BBB- or BB+ or not rated. If we feel like -- we're doing our own underwriting and if we feel like we're not taking on a lot of risk and we're getting an attractive yield, then you know that those are the types of opportunities that we're chasing.

Daniel Guglielmo

Great, thanks.

Operator

Jana Galan, Bank of America.

Jana Galan

Thank you. Good morning. Following up on that, I just wanted to comment on the team's very impressive credit underwriting, and I was curious if you could talk to -- if any criteria has been modified or updated, whether it be on the real estate side or on the tenant credit side.

Mark Manheimer

Hey, Jana, good to hear from you. Yeah, no changes really broadly from how we're underwriting. I think really the filter hasn't changed. It's really what's getting through the filter that may have changed, just as we haven't seen cap rates move up enough where you've had rates move up on the investment grade side, but cap rates have moved up on the investment grade profile and sub-investment grade tenants, and so that just happens to be currently where the more attractive opportunities are.
But more broadly we're looking at the corporate credit, what kind of cash flow the tenant is generating today and what can impact that over time and what are the financial obligations that they need to meet and how tight is that and what can change that.
And then the second piece of course is the location that we're buying, are they generating a lot of cash flow at that location well beyond the rent that they're paying so that if we get the first part wrong or something changes with the corporate credit, whether it's the balance sheet or operations, do we have locations that they're going to want to keep in a restructuring and it's really the same analysis when you get to the end of the lease term.
They're going to renew the leases that generate cash flow, and the ones that don't, they're going to renegotiate or leave. And so we want to avoid those situations. And then of course if you get the first two pieces wrong, hopefully we don't have a lot of those, what's the real estate and how fungible is the real estate?
How much is it going to cost to reposition it and how interesting is that location going to be to other retailers that we want to grow with? And so -- and can you replace that rent? And so that's -- it's really the same three buckets I think we think about it the same way. It's just we have different opportunities that are getting through the filter.

Jana Galan

And I guess maybe just is there kind of a maximum box size that you won't go over and just curious also with the dis -- I understand the disposition of the Lowe's was more cap rated driven, but just curious if you're just moving away from larger boxes in general.

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, I wouldn't say much is changing there, but we are much more cautious if the box is bigger, especially like a Lowe's. We don't want to take back many big box assets. They're just going to be very difficult to reposition.
There's only four or five operators that could step into a Lowe's without us having to spend the money to split it up into three or four tenants, and that's costly, and you may be able to increase the rent, but it's going to cost you so much in CapEx that it's really not worth it.
And so our strong preference is to focus on the smaller fungible boxes. We will have a handful of larger boxes, but we have to be very sure about our underwriting as it relates to the corporate credit and the unit level profitability.

Jana Galan

Thank you.

Operator

Upal Rana, KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Upal Rana

Great, thank you. I was wondering, have you heard anything from your tenants regarding tariffs or any potential impacts to them? It would tariffs potentially add any new tenants to your tenant credit watch list?

Mark Manheimer

Tariffs have not. I mean, it's been an interesting ride. I think the tenants are really just trying to figure out what's going to happen because it's moved around this morning in terms of what's exempt and what's not with automobiles.
So yeah, I think it's really just made it difficult for them to make decisions. It may slow their growth a little bit. I think some companies will have trouble making hiring decisions. So I think that's it's really added some level of confusion for some people.
But we've gone through our entire portfolio and really tried to think through what could be the negative impacts of tariffs and where people source their goods and whether that -- and that also applies to services as much as it does for people that just sell things in their stores, and what's the ease of being able to switch that.
But then I think that's going to move around a lot, and I think people get caught up in the first derivative of what's going on with tariffs, but I think it's really prudent to think through what's the second derivative of what could happen if things continue to move around and we kind of muddle our way through.
This much uncertainty and that's -- we could see a slowdown. And that's really, for us, we view that as an opportunity for us where we -- where our portfolio shines when things slow down, you saw that during COVID.
We collected all of our rent during COVID when others were really struggling to collect rent and we were able to play a little bit more offense. And so we just don't have very much that's discretionary within our portfolio, and so that's really where we're not just thinking about the first derivative, we're thinking through the second and third derivative and what might happen.

Upal Rana

Okay, great, that was helpful. And then just last one for me would, in the acquisitions you did in 1Q, were there any new relationships in there or were they all with existing tenants?

Mark Manheimer

I believe we added three new tenants in the quarter if I recall.

Upal Rana

Okay great. Thank you.

Operator

Jay Kornreich, Wedbush Securities.

Jay Kornreich

Hey, guys. Good morning. You mentioned one new addition into the top 20 tenant list, and I'm just curious if you are able to get an improved cost of capital to acquire more, do you see any growing opportunity to get additional new tenants into that top 20 either from growing current smaller exposures or just totally new tenants?

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, the top 20 tenant and Gerber Collision, we've got a few more in the pipeline, so that one, by definition we'll be adding to that. And we have a number of tenants that kind of fall on our top 40 that we'd like to continue to grow with, as well as looking at some new opportunities.
And so, absolutely. I think that's one thing that we're focused on going into 2025 and 2026 is really we need to improve the diversification of the portfolio, and that's really a great way to do it.

Jay Kornreich

All right, thank you. And then just one follow up, going back to the transaction market, I guess just given the overall economic uncertainty, are you seeing increased interest from your competition in safer investment grade assets that you would typically invest into relative to what you currently -- what you expect during more economic understood times, or are you seeing in an expansion in competition in that investment grade asset class?

Mark Manheimer

Yeah, difficult to say, honestly. We haven't really seen a lot more competition show up at this point. But yeah, I mean, I think if we end up in a more sustained uncertain environment and you really start to see the economy slow, I certainly would expect to see that.

Jay Kornreich

Okay, thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to Mark Manheimer for closing remarks.

Mark Manheimer

Well, thank you everybody for joining today and for your interest in NETSTREIT. We look forward to seeing many of you at the upcoming conferences.

Operator

Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.