PayPal CEO: 'Checkout is like a vestigial organ of yesterday'

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PayPal (PYPL) CEO Dan Schulman says mobile is going to “fundamentally redefine” the retail industry.

“Already, it’s starting to do that. It is blurring the distinction between online and offline. People used to think about e-commerce and in-store. Mobile erases those boundaries,” Schulman said at an event on Thursday hosted by the New York Economic Club.

To illustrate his point, he presented a scenario of a customer using a mobile phone to place a food order.

“If you order a Subway sandwich on your mobile phone, customize it, you pay for it there, and then you go into the store, skip the line, pick it up, maybe tap your phone to pick up the rewards points or whatever it might be, was that an online transaction or an offline transaction? It was both. It was both.”

Omnichannel, meaning a seamless approach to shopping across channels, will be “the way everybody will go.”

“You’re already seeing one store after another close. We’re way over-capacitized in terms of physical retail now. One-third of the malls here in the U.S. are dead or dying already. And I could read you a list of almost a who’s who that are closing stores after another.”

It’s not that retail sales are going down, but the way people shop is shifting.

Checkout lines are ‘vestigial organ of yesterday’

For example, checkout lines could be a thing of the past.

Currently, Amazon (AMZN) is testing its Amazon Go store, which is a convenience store where there’s no lines and no checkout. Shoppers simply scan an app, pick up what they want, and walk out with a receipt that shows up on their phone.

In China, Schulman has noticed how many stores don’t have shopping carts or checkout lines.

“Checkout is like a vestigial organ of yesterday. It’s going to disappear,” he said, adding, “Those retail stores in China now. It’s almost like a Hollywood set. There’s what’s there and behind it is the warehousing. It’s like bags moving around. You order it and it’s shipped to your house within 30 minutes.”

Schulman expects that mobile will change not just retail, but everyday consumer behavior.

“I think the best payment apps will transcend just payment itself. It will tie into all of your other activities,” Schulman said.

He noted how Chinese consumers are using payment apps WeChat Pay and AliPay constantly.

“They open those apps 30 to 40 times a day, a day. They do everything on that app. The average PayPal customer is 30 to 40 times a year. So they do 30-40 times a day,” he said. “Thinking about how mobile and mobile payments kind of move into everyday life is very important.”

PayPal is the parent company of Venmo, a peer-to-peer payments app that’s popular with millennials. He touted it as being about social payments, with 94% of transactions having a social or emoji attached to it for others to see.