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By Tom Westbrook, Andrew Galbraith and Ross Kerber
SINGAPORE/SHANGHAI/BOSTON (Reuters) - Investors face uncertain rules and could miss out on promising opportunities after index makers cut some blocked Chinese firms from their books, according to money managers and attorneys.
The exclusions, a response to a ban on American investment in companies named on a Pentagon list, could weigh on prices for some stocks - though only for as long as it takes for foreign buyers to pick up the spoils.
Tariq Dennison, managing director at GFM Asset Management in Hong Kong, said the index exclusions were understandable but had created a headache for investors.
"It's been more than the average annoyance because some of those names are names we own," he said, referring to China Mobile, which is on the Defense Department list and which he still considers a good investment.
The executive order by U.S. President Donald Trump, published last month, barred U.S. investors from buying securities of restricted firms starting in November 2021, based on their alleged ties to the Chinese military.
Most selling will probably come from passive managers who track major indexes and exchange-traded-funds, since FTSE Russell and S&P Dow Jones Indices have said they will drop certain companies from their products.
S&P is also culling blocked firms' bonds from its credit indexes, and other index providers including MSCI and Nasdaq are expected to take similar steps.
But several investors said they are waiting for the U.S. Treasury to publish more details about the sanctions to fully assess the market impact.
"As the executive order sits there is no required forced selling per se," said Salman Niaz, a bond fund manager and head of Asian credit at Goldman Sachs Asset Management in Singapore, "When the detailed regulations come out we will know exactly what it means."
Niaz points out that the risk premium on Chinese securities had not changed since the announcements. Chinese borrowers have more than $600 billion of bonds outstanding in offshore markets, he said, of which about 75% is rated investment grade and just $29 billion of that was from issuers on the list of blocked companies. "This leaves a sufficiently deep investible opportunity set of bonds that global investors can participate in."
Jamieson Greer, a former Trump administration trade official who is now a partner at law firm King & Spalding in Washington and represents investment firms, said one question is how the prohibitions will affect indirect holdings such as those in index funds.