5 takeaways from Michael Barr’s remarks at The Clearing House conference
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NEW YORK — FedNow is poised to complement the private real-time payments network run by The Clearing House, Federal Reserve Vice Chair for Supervision Michael Barr said in remarks delivered Friday at The Clearing House’s annual conference.

Barr’s commentary was part of a question-and-answer session that covered payments priorities, digital assets, regulatory approaches and monetary policy. Here are five key takeaways:

1. FedNow isn’t expected to fragment or duplicate existing private real-time payment rails.

Barr said he expects FedNow and RTP to co-exist, with banks choosing which rail to route payments through.

“I don’t foresee this being a conflict. ... Banks are going to have optionality in the systems they use, and they might use different rails for different kinds of payments,” he said.

Barr said he felt the uptake for FedNow, though slow, is consistent with expectations. It will be important to get community banks on board and ensure core providers offer it to them in a fair, accessible way, he said, adding that wide-scale adoption could take years.

Responding to a question about whether FedNow would cut into bank fee income, Barr said the ability of businesses and households to receive money instantly would be a “huge benefit for American society,” and could have a significant impact in reducing overdraft fees and insufficient funds fees.

FedNow isn’t expected to introduce additional risk into the system because banks will be able to set controls and cap transaction levels, he said. For that reason, it’s not expected to encourage future bank runs. Silicon Valley Bank failed because of mismanagement of interest rate and liquidity risk, Barr added. The technology made it possible to withdraw funds, but not through “any fancy new technology, [it’s] technology that’s been around since the 1970s,” he said.

2. There is no conflict between the Fed’s role as a regulator of debit card costs and as the operator of FedNow.

The Fed board last month voted in favor of a proposal that would cut a cap on the interchange fee that debit card issuers can charge merchants to process a transaction. The proposal would lower the base debit fee rate by about 30% to 14.4 cents from 21 cents.

Barr said Congress assigned the Fed a particular role with respect to debit cards, ensuring that interchange fees are “reasonable and proportional in relation to specified costs.”

“That’s our job. We do the job Congress assigned us … and I don’t see that influencing or connecting in any way with our work on FedNow,” he said.